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As much as I dislike Neil Young, he says it best:
"Homegrown's all right with me.
Homegrown is the way it should be.
Homegrown is a good thing.
Plant that bell and let it ring.
The sun comes up in the morning,
Shines that light around.
One day, without no warning,
Things start jumping up from the ground.
Well, homegrown's all right with me.
Homegrown is the way it should be.
Homegrown is a good thing.
Plant that bell and let it ring."
Software Zen: delete this;
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Couldn't agree more (about the sentiment and Neil Young). For fear of duplicate posts, I listed my reasons in a direct response later in the thread.
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Take a look at Redmine. GNU licence very flexible, web based with integration for just about everything
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We use Trac: http://trac.edgewall.org[^] It integrates well with subversion and was pretty simple to setup (for me: windoze server, python, trac, apache httpd) or you can get pre-configured installers from a few places.
Or you could investigate the apache incubator "BloodHound" which is based on Trac: http://bloodhound.apache.org/[^]
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For my programming business we use https://www.assembla.com/[^]. It has SVN and git as repo's plus you get one free private repo which will house a couple projects if you set it up correctly. It has a built in ticket system and bug tracker.
Eric
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It's actually frustrating -- there are so many!
My advice:
1. Determine if you want a hosted service or use your servers.
2. Open source. Period. There are so many available, there is no reason to go with a closed source product.
3. Pick one that is actively maintained.
That still only narrows it down to 25 or so.
I've used:
Eventum -- I was happy with it for 4 years. Now owned by oracle I think.
Google code -- meh.
RT -- Does a good job. Too complex for small installations. Don't know if it's FOSS.
WebIssues -- I use this and am also a contributor. What makes it different is that it also has a fully featured native client for Linux / Windows / OSX.
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Make sure you're thinking of it as a change tracking system, not bug tracking. In other words, all deltas to the code/sql/3rd party software/anything else should be registered in whatever tool you use, not just bugs.
With that being said, I can say to exclude redmine from your consideration. It's been many years since I used jira, but that seemed to be pretty effective from what I recall and integrated with SVN.
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We use a homegrown bug tracker called... wait for it... BugTracker. Silverlight MVVM (WP8 almost done for it), CSLA biz objects, SQL Express backend, working on converting it to ASP.NET MVC. While we could probably buy something for cheaper than the dev costs, a.) we develop on it in downtime, so there's not much opportunity cost, and b.) the big one for me is it essentially doubles as our experimental project. We only have 2 devs, my boss and me, and I'm very much the junior, so this got assigned to me, and I get to use it for trying out new concepts in something more realistic than a "Hello, World!" app.
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We use JIRA as an all in one bug tracker/project management tool. The OnDemand version is free for up to 10 users and integrates well with the other Atlassian products.
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Jira by Atlassian on our own server, but you can also have them host for a very modest amount for a small number of users.
We also have it integrated in to SVN by creating a post-commit hook that sends an Email to Jira; the SVN log then gets posted to the Jira when the user supplies the Jira ticket number.
I've used many bugtracking systems (haven't used Bugzilla, though), and wrote a couple of my own, and found Jira to be very useful and easy to customize.
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Try BugTracker.net[^]
I have used it for a couple of trackers now and I am very pleased with it.
Haven't tried the source control integration so ymmv.
DR
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We use Redmine. It's pretty easy to setup and includes integration with Subversion, git and mercurial.
What exactly do you want the bug tracker to do?
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We use physical red cards stuck with blu-tac to a physical wall. Works a treat.
And yes, this is enterprise software in a company with about 30 developers (each team/project has their own wall).
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Over[^] the[^] last[^] two[^] weeks[^] SF/Fantasy author Ryk Spoor has had a panel of his assorted villains discussing the Evil Overlord List. I've included a few excerpts below, (and if I'd realized how long this post was going to get probably would've posted each part here as they came out. )
If you haven't read any of Ryk's books you should. If you're a science fiction fan I'd suggest starting with Boundary[^]. General fantasy readers should check out Pheonix Rising[^]. Lovers of vampires that only sparkle when on fire unfortunately will have to either hunt down a copy of the out of print Digital Knight[^] or wait about a year until it's rereleased in an expanded form as Paradigms Lost.
Quote:
6. I will not gloat over my enemies’ predicament before killing them.
Virigar: You know, this list is starting to take the fun out of being an Evil Overlord. It’s at least half the POINT of finally catching your enemy to take that shining moment to gloat — and of course give him the chance to put that last, desperate plan into action.
Dark Wanderer: Oh, far from it; I am all too aware of the existence of Good as a tangible force. In any case, whether I gloat would depend on how amusing it would be for ME. I rather agree with Virigar. There’s an element of style here.
Endgame: Virigar, Wanderer, you are entirely correct. It is not sufficient to merely win. One has to win properly. Your enemies must be forced to recognized to realize their failure, to appreciate and despair at your own genius! They must be broken! They must kneel! And only then do you grant them the death they so richly deserve!
Thornfalcon: I certainly applaud the spirit, if not the details, not being quite as… what was the term I heard once… Nhilistic, that is it… as you. The dramatic speech, the chance to reveal your plan, the desperate attempts to escape – and, yes, even that risk that you’re perhaps not quite as good as you thought – this is part of the fun of it all.
Dark Wanderer: Ahh, yes, that’s what I was trying to think of! All this talk of being so practical that you stop being a grand-scale villain is just plain “Bad Form”. From the movie “Hook”.
25. No matter how well it would perform, I will never construct any sort of machinery which is completely indestructible except for one small and virtually inaccessible vulnerable spot.
Virigar (dryly): Oh, you’d prefer it be completely indestructible except for many large and easily targeted spots?
Master Wieran: I think they refer to devices as are found in poorly-thought-out tales which provide some critical weakness to an otherwise invincible foe.
Maria-Susanna: Say, like silver bullets for a werewolf?
Virigar: Your soul looks absolutely delicious, you know.
29. I will dress in bright and cheery colors, and so throw my enemies into confusion.
Virigar: Does rather make it difficult to maintain the “Dark Lord” title, though.
Dark Wanderer: Yes, and “the Pink Lord of Shininess” doesn’t quite have the same impact.
50. My main computers will have their own special operating system that will be completely incompatible with standard IBM and Macintosh powerbooks.
Virigar: Yet another one far too specific to be applicable.
Dark Wanderer: You’re right, big V, too specific, and not even accurate. Let’s try this reformulation which is much closer to the ACTUAL problem and one more generally applicable: “I will make sure that all equipment superior to that of my enemies is carefully accounted for. In the event that some falls into the enemy’s hands, I will either (A) retrieve it, (B) destroy it, or, if both of the latter are impossible, (C) modify my plans to assume that they will be able to understand and incorporate that technology into their own plans. I WILL NOT PERMIT A SHIP WHICH HAS BEEN IN ENEMY HANDS FOR 40 YEARS TO DOCK WITH MY MOTHERSHIP!”
90. After I captures the hero’s superweapon, I will not immediately disband my legions and relax my guard because I believe whoever holds the weapon is unstoppable. After all, the hero held the weapon and I took it from him.
Virigar: Indeed. We are all agreed on this?
Dark Wanderer: (after a glance around the table) Yep. Unless the reason is that you WILL use the superweapon, and HE wouldn’t.
Thornfalcon: Even so, why would I disband my Legions? Unless I feel like using my unstoppable superweapon to solve minor disputes in administration, I’ll have a great use for an extensive force of persons to police my realm.
94. If I decide to hold a double execution of the hero and an underling who failed or betrayed me, I will see to it that the hero is scheduled to go first.
Virigar: Double execution? Double the executioners, then. Kill them both at the same time.
Master Wieran: I do not DO such wasteful demonstrations. I will disassemble them for use in the organ vats.
Maria-Susanna: EEEeeeeew!
Dark Wanderer: Hmm, wouldn’t have thought you so squeamish. I agree with Big V; kill both at once.
Thornfalcon: Ahhh, now, the problem is *spectacle*. Public executions are entertainment, and you’re now insisting on cutting it in half.
Endgame: And they’re also dramatic emphasis of your will and power. Cut that in half, cut the effect in half.
Amanita: Ohhh, I love a good execution! Don’t waste them!
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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the places my net nanny restrict, rather annoying!
Can't stand fantasy the only book of his I have on the phone is Grand Central Arena, I will be chasing the sequel shortly.
On another note do/can you share your ebook library (I have no compunction in breaking the DRM) with family etc.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: Can't stand fantasy the only book of his I have on the phone is Grand Central Arena, I will be chasing the sequel shortly.
De gustibus non est disputandum. That's the only one of his published books I've never been able to finish; my WSOD collapsed partway through the first draft and the 'what happened last time' prologue of Spheres of Influence more or less confirmed that it wasn't the sort of story I'd normally enjoy. Spheres hit #45 on Bookscan's national all format SF list though; so clearly a lot of people do agree with you.
Mycroft Holmes wrote: On another note do/can you share your ebook library (I have no compunction in breaking the DRM) with family etc.
AFAIK Baen itself doesn't. If you're buying from Amazon/etc instead of Baen's outlet[^], you'd need to read the terms of service to know. DRM isn't an issue though; while Baen did have to make some accommodations to the beast that caused fan grumbling Baen ebooks (from any source) are as DRM free as they were when Jim Baen started selling them in 1999.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Most of my library comes from Baen but recently I felt I needed a wider selection of authors and so ended up at eBook.com. currently enjoying Gary Gibson's Shoal series.
The really pleasant things was finding some of the more interesting add ins to Calibre, Imagine having to register all my reading devices with Adobe what bullshit. I really hope the publishers come up with a workable structure so everyone get their fair cut.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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There can be only one evil overlord and its not a creation of Ryk Spoor but a member of our CP community.
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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Thank you, thank you. It's nice to be recognised...
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Marco Bertschi wrote: Psst... HeShe talks about our QA-newbie-slammer[^] Nope. He has no power here
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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Pssst! He's not an overlord. Just evil.
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Our great overlord is always right !
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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