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I guess he means that you set your system up to boot directly to the Desktop. You also set it up to go to the Apps screen when you select the System button so you never need see the Start screen at all.
My Win 8.1 system looks exactly like my Win 7 system most days. There are odd times when I need the Apps screen to start a system app, or play a game or two over lunch, but I never go into the Start screen.
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Shameel wrote: ed welch wrote: After getting rid of Metro
How did you do that? Installed ClassicShell?
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coarse or course?
ahem.
Bryce
MCAD
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Lol
To remove metro from windows 8 is to remove all advancement in technology, while you use compatibility mode aka the desktop.
Brilliant: viva la resistance
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Metro is absolutely not an advance for PC users (maybe it is for tablet). It is a reversion to one-app-at-a-time computing which Microsoft correctly decided was outdated in 1990 when they brought out Windows. With two 1080p monitors and multi-core CPUs to play with it's even more nonsensical now than it was then.
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Indeed. I presume the Metro fiasco was the reason that Ballmer got sacked
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I can't find the article I read about it, but apparently he was fired over the Nokia deal. TL/DR: Ballmer wanted Nokia, board didn't, he threw a hissy fit and got his way, at least in the short run.
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You are uneducated.
I am using Two 1080p monitors and multi-core CPU.
Until windows 8 metro I have never seen a app use 64 bits correctly, let alone a single app correctly handle 200 GB.
The only reason not to like metro is the fact nothing is programmed for it yet.
Your opinion is not based on technology, but mere thin air.
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9 years of post secondary.
Tell me about an app that can utilize 200 GB please?
Every server environment I have ever worked on has to use virtual machines to utilize that amount of memory or more.
Having a masters degree means you can gets grades and follow society - that does not mean he is current on technology.
He is indeed uneducated.
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What does a single app using 200GB have to do with a terrible end-user UI? 64 bit has been available and (afaik) worked properly since Windows XP, not to mention non-Windows OSs. 64 bit is excellent technology, although beyond the needs of most applications, but it is totally different to Metro.
In your next post you talk about servers; you shouldn't even be interacting with a server through a graphical UI in most cases so it's completely nonsensical to talk about Metro wrt servers.
Metro isn't even technology, it's a design choice, and a terrible one at that.
Colborne_Greg wrote: The only reason not to like metro is the fact nothing is programmed for it yet.
No, the reason not to like it (as I've pointed out to you in this thread and others in the past) is that we moved forward from running one application at a time 25 years ago and it's just insane to force people back into a one-at-a-time model, particularly when computers are now powerful enough to easily run a lot of applications in parallel. Why do you think tabbed browsers are so popular?
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Do you understand what metro is?
Metro is not one application at a time model.
I suggest you take training on windows 8 to educate yourself on every aspect.
The only downfall to metro is the lack of programming for metro.
The way metro interacts with the user is limited by the applications you use not windows itself.
By the way so you understand what metro is:
It is Windows RT aka Windows Runtime aka the .net framework turned into an operating system.
Metro is a marvel of absolute programming perfection.
The desktop in windows 8 is a metro app.
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Everyone uses 'Metro' to mean the non-desktop crappy interface in W8. Microsoft initially called it that (see 'Metro styling' all over the web) and it's stuck even though they changed their mind on that. If you don't realise that and think we're talking about the back-end improvements to the OS then your confusion and posts start to make a bit of sense.
Colborne_Greg wrote: I suggest you take training on windows 8 to educate yourself on every aspect.
Well, no, actually I think I'll just keep using software (and that includes OSs) that makes itself easy to use. In my case that means Classic Shell to hide most of the W8 insanity.
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The user interface of the metro mode is what I am talking about.
Metro is mainly about screen partitioning.
see that black line - it treats each section of the screen like its own screen (not window, not application) so when an application such as a desktop or a not well thought out metro app - it is put into full screen and given absolute focus; allowing you to control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do.
Again educate yourself
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Screen partitioning, even if it is allowed by the Metro UI (I've never seen it do anything other than run apps full screen), is still vastly inferior to window overlapping as in classic windowed UIs (not just Windows but Mac OS, Unix/Linux window managers and right back to Acorn). I've currently got 10 windows visible on my screens, but 8 of them are just corners sticking out for when I need them.
allowing you to control multiple programs at the same time, something the windows desktop can not do
It is easy to control multiple programs at once in a windowed UI, that's the whole point!
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Two windows can not have focus at the same time
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The desktop can not have focus to two applications at the same time
key word there is focus
This means I can type using the keyboard into one app
Use my mouse in another app
while playing a game in the third with my gamepad
the desktop is a piece of sh*t - grow new skills
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Multiple users
The tablet is how I discovered it, I had a map half screen, and IE on the other, I was finding directions and my girlfriend started playing around on IE - which worked wonderfully while I searched for directions.
Back at home with multiple monitors I am able to play a full screen game while she uses the secondary monitor.
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I write metro apps
I wrote Unidex, it will replace SQL
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The case being?
In agile development you'd be the guy in the back that resists change at all cost and denies things without reason.
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A word of warning about your old backups...
Windows 8 had a "restore from Windows 7 backup" option which would read backups from W7 and Vista. In their wisdom Microsoft have removed this from 8.1 so you need to "Install Win 7 on a VM and restore via that" (seen on Technet).
I can just imagine old grannies turning up at PC World asking for help with Hyper-V Manager.
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