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Nuff said.
THESE PEOPLE REALLY BOTHER ME!! How can they know what you should do without knowing what you want done?!?!
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I thought Chuck Norris died during hand to hand combat with Pete a year ago. Oh well, I must be mistaken.
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He can't be dead. He's just offline. 
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL.
I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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It's not Chuck Norris that's offline - it's that the internet can only connect to him when he allows it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
modified 12-Aug-14 9:24am.
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If Chuck Norris go online, he will take up all the bandwidth 
In code we trust !
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Chuck Norris can boot any computer, with either foot, his technique for rack-mounted servers above his head height is particularly balletic.
In the mid-70s, Chuck Norris nearly ended civilization when he mistook Dennis Ritchey, Ken Thompson, and the entire Unix team for Islamic fundamentalists.
Chuck Norris was originally cast for the part of Fonzie, but the schedule didn't allow enough time for crime-fighting. Marion Ross still remembers the casting sessions fondly.
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Jeremy Falcon has won every Oscar for Best Actor, ever
Jeremy Falcon drinks beer and p!sses nails
Jeremy Falcon is on speed dial for every Hollywood starlet
Jeremy Falcon wrote an entire ASP.NET application using nothing but an Etch a Sketch. Jealous colleagues had previously removed the dials from it
Jeremy Falcon won every strongman competition in 2012 but was much too modest, so he wore lifesize suits of other people
It's said that if every Jeremy Falcon is in the same room as Justin Bieber, Bieber will simply cease to exist. Can someone please arrange this?
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Jeremy Falcon claims she he is always bloody right.
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL.
I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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Karen Mitchelle wrote: Jeremy Falcon claims she he is always bloody right.
Hey, don't hate me for having fabulous hair. ![Jig | [Dance]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
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Quote: wrote an entire ASP.NET application using nothing but an Etch a Sketch
Doesn't everyone write ASP that way?
Quote: Jeremy Falcon is in the same room as Justin Bieber, Bieber will simply cease to exist
He would cease to exist if I was in the same room too...
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Seems like the nail thing might hurt.
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MehGerbil wrote: Seems like the nail thing might hurt.
That's right. It hurts the nails!!
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Well I can find Jeremy Falcon's home page, but Chuck Norris? Maybe he's a figment of Jeremy's imagination.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: It's said that if every Jeremy Falcon is in the same room as Justin Bieber, Bieber will simply cease to exist. Can someone please arrange this?
This man, is truly a work of art. 
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When Bob comes down to walk among His people he does so in the guise of Jeremy Falcon.
Jeremy Falcon wasn't born; he was found upon opening the box during Schodinger's famous cat experiment.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: he was found upon opening the box during Schodinger's famous cat experiment.
Nice back reference there. Speak fluent regex you must.
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hey guys
does anybody know if there is a standard release type form / language / letter / etc, for a programmer who has a day job but wants to work on own projects in spare time WITHOUT the day job having any claim on the IP for those projects?
obviously, the own projects would not be in the same business sphere as the day job, nor would the dev use anything provided by the day job for those projects (hardware, software, etc) - the only crossover would be they are both on platform x (iOS or Android, etc)
thanks 
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
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What does your contract state? Unless you've signed something to state explicitly that the company owns everything you produce, they shouldn't be able to touch you for it. Oh, and even if they do have an IPR clause, this is considered unenforceable in a lot of countries.
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hey pete
thanks - it's not me (i've never had a day job) - it's a potential member of a team i'm putting together for a big -ish project and i want to make sure all the bases are covered when it comes to legal stuff
i would rather not assume that because his contract doesn't explicitly state x, y, and z, we can use him without an explicit release letter being signed by said employers
it is for the text of that letter i was wondering if there are any standard forms anywhere
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
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There aren't any standard texts. I would include something like this if I were worried:
"x warrants that there are no prior claims to work performed while undertaking the tasks as outlined as part of the contractual agreement with y."
I would also require x to carry liability cover - it's not that expensive - to indemnify you.
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l a u r e n wrote: i want to make sure all the bases are covered when it comes to legal stuff
Then hire a lawyer who knows the laws that exist in your country. Never trust a bunch of strangers on an internet forum.
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As Pete says, start by looking at your contract of employment.
Although such provisions are difficult (if not impossible) to enforce, it doesn't stop some companies trying - and they generally have better financial resources that programmers, so have access to better lawyers. Even if they lose, it can cost you a lot of time and grief.
Who are you going to get to sign the release? Have you discussed this with your employer? Did you get any training from your employer that might have been used to produce the "home" software? If so, their claim strengthens, particularly if they are for the same platform and can thus be expected to use the same skill set.
Me? I'd just keep quiet, and make sure you can prove that it was all done on private time and private equipment. And if you make a fortune, just quit the day job and don't tell them... 
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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thanks - see my reply to pete above
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
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probably depends on where you are, but here the employer is in the weak position.
* First of all you do this during your own free time (not company time) The company does not "own" you during your free time.
* There is no realistic way that the knowledge you gain during company time cannot be used further down the road (if that was so "experience" would not exist) You're only really in trouble if you start re-using code (and selling it) from your company. In this case it's probably even more beneficiary for the company as you will learn new things on your own time and bring that back in.
* Even if the contract states you cannot do something in the line of a competitive company, this can be narrowed down. Your company could be a development company for a reporting tool eg, but you can still develop and sell applications of your own (or your knowledge) as long as it is not directly (and competitively) related to reporting tools.
* The OS has nothing to do with it and if you have a laptop you're allowed to use it for personal use. (here they sell a laptop as extra-legal benefits on top of your salary). I rarely use my laptop for real personal use though.
But personally I think your main worry is that your software might be competitive to your company's. What you could do to be on the safe side is talk to HR and your boss to check if this is OK. I would recommend that even.
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I always though that what I do on my own time is nobody else's business. Go figure.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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