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Once there were programmers.
Then there were analysts; to guide the programmers.
Then to simplify things, they added programmer-analysts.
When the software got too "techie", the programmers split into systems and application programmers ... who needed their own supervisors, directors, and VP's.
Then the system software got too "fat", so there came database analysts, programmers, and administrators.
Then the big machines got smaller and ...
It's all just a question of scale.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Sure, after 40 years of developing, one can really learn backend and frontend well. But full-stack is a term that's abused and overused way too much. What it's come to mean colloquially is "I do some backend and well I've seen a few bits of JavaScript. What's CSS again?"
The idea a junior or even a mid can be full stack is an outdated notion. The frontend has evolved tremendously. Even outside of that, I can't even begin to tell you how many "full-stack" developers still don't know CSS even. They all swear they do because they've seen a div. But nope. They cannot beat a real expert that dedicates their time to it.
The problem is, a lot of developers have no respect for the frontend. And in their mind they think they can do it all. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Personally, I'd never hire someone who claim to knew it all. Even after 30 years of development and being able to hold my own on the backend, I still specialize in the frontend and don't know it all on the backend. I'm good, but I won't beat someone who dedicates all their time to it. Not to mention, you take two seconds to sneeze and even the frontend changes.
This isn't the 60s... the industry has evolved.
Jeremy Falcon
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It's a good counter-point.
A junior full-stack, for me, is a junior that can be effective in all parts of the stack, and takes ownership of the work until it's done. I have one, and every time he doesn't fully grasp something, he asks the most experienced full-stacks within the company on how they would approach the problem, and he openly discusses complex issues with other front-end specialized people. He collaborates effectively.
I strongly believe front-end specialists are valuable and needed within every company.
I just don't agree that a full-stack team cannot be effective.
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Also, the business priority for smaller companies cater to the need of not having specialists in order to save money. But that doesn't mean a generalist actually knows what they're doing or is better at their job.
Jeremy Falcon
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I think it depends on what your target for the full-stack is ... For a full Windows system from driver to service to GUI that manipulates sensors / processes data / munches on ordinary files (i.e. no database, no web), I'm your person. After nearly 40 years, I can do all those and do them well; isn't that the definition of full stack?
However, add even a hint of web or database or internet communications, I would fail miserably if I tried to pass myself off as full-stack for that target.
Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss.
Lazarus Long, "Time Enough For Love" by Robert A. Heinlein
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Hah another old school SF reader!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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I've been around for a while now. Why are all my posts marked as "suspected spam" or whatever? Do I have to bombard the Lounge with a certain density of posts/day to be accepted as "not a spammer"?
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That nuisance goes away once you hit a specific total message count or something related.
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You should eventually be fine if you just keep doing what you're doing. I wonder if you posted a link or a certain phrase one day and the spam detector is just having trouble letting that instance go. I would suggest avoid sharing links for a bit, and you should be righted eventually.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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Don't recall posting any links, and most of my posts are pretty harmless. Maybe I'll try blitzing rubbish for a while, until the mod note goes. Jk. Thanks for the reply.
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JohnDG52 wrote: Maybe I'll try blitzing rubbish for a while
No, do not do that! It is better to post a few good messages / articles / questions and have to endure a delay whilst they are moderated than to get a reputation for spouting rubbish - once you have that reputation, people will just ignore everything you post even if it is brilliant.
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Thanks for the pointers, but it was a joke.
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A guess is that the spam trap is triggered by words or combinations of words deemed as suspicious Maybe the filter doesn’t like your nickname either
modified 15-Dec-22 9:15am.
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Why is FLIR named as such? Is there such a thing as BLIR?
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Dunno - it's all a BLUR to me.
You have a FLaIR for asking questions though.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Quote: The term FLIR, which stands for “Forward Looking Infrared”, refers to the technology used to create an infrared image of a scene without having to “scan” the scene with a moving sensor, which is what was previously required. It is also the name of the largest manufacturer of thermal imaging cameras (FLIR Systems).
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One would think there should be. It is, after all, a characteristic of all armies to prepare for the war they just fought, not for the coming war.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I wondered if FLIR could be used for mole abatement. Thank goodness someone on you tube already tried and failed.
Still looking for a solution.
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Saw someone hunt them by stomping down the hills then come back hour later to see where they pop-up. Place a rock at each end of the new tunnel, come back again to get the direction. Mole is at one end or the other. Grab a pitchfork and skewer them right out of the ground. I was amazed when the neighbor did this a few times.
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Thanks for this approach.
I might try it the next few weeks.
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inconsequential low calorie burden (11)
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Nice simple one - like it!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Well I thought it was pretty straight forward too, but like pkfox says not many people seem to be participating.
I haven't seen anything from Greg Utas in some time now... I hope he is good and well.
Please go ahead and solve OG.
Best wishes from snowy Minnesota - Craig
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inconsequential
low calorie LIGHT
burden WEIGHT
LIGHTWEIGHT
Defintion: "A British politician".
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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