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See my other post above.
The card should work. Yours may be defective or there is general problem with this card and your system (mainboard).
[EDIT]
Another reason may be that the PSU is not able to deliver enough power upon system start. At startup most parts draw more power than during normal operation (disk drive motors are starting, fans running with max. speed).
modified 18-Jan-15 8:53am.
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Summary:
It's a relatively modern motherboard and chipset, the slot type is backward compatible, just make sure it has adequate power.
Details:
If the card recommends 400W, I wouldn't mess with that. It will need 400W.
For 300W, at best you'll get it to boot up, but it will crash and lock up for no apparent reasons. At worst, it won't boot.
Yes, PCIe 3.0 IS backwards compatible, it's not just a theory.
As another poster mentioned, boot in safe mode, uninstall the old driver, and delete the drivers.
Place the new card in, with an adequate power supply.
If there are auxiliary power ports on the video card, make sure they are supplied with the extra power they need as well.
Power it up, the system should detect the card, and if it doesn't have drivers you will need to manually select from the install disk.
One problem I had when installing a recent video card was the hardware ID of my card was not in the approved list of drivers, so it would not appear for me to even be able to manually install. I had to modify the driver's INF file and perform some other wizardry. If it comes to that though, check back.
Finally, a bios update is always a possibility, however, I have only ever had to resort to a bios update if I found instabilities in my machine, and the bios update indicated that it might fix the issue.
The bios update is the LAST thing I would attempt.
Regards,
Paul
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Hello Paul!
Thank you for your comprehensive steps list.
I'm afraid that after installing the new PSU, the problem will still be there: @Kornfeld_Eliyahu_Peter has posted this link to a youtube video in which the same problem can be seen... : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkBTSlBW2oc[^]
So... I think the only real options are:
1. Return the GPU. Which I don't think it will be possible at all.
2. Buy and install a new PSU and follow all those steps... which is a PITA each time the computer must be started.
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Yes, but it is not just the PSU wattage you need to look at, you need to make sure the various power rails supply the amperage required.
I had a similar problem a few years back, and although the PSU was technically sufficient, there were a number of 12 v rails and they weren't rated to supply the juice to the gpu plugs.
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How nice it was
I'm almost sure it should work as I've seen somebody with the same problem for a GTX750TI card which is a little bit better than my inlaw's one mounted in the same computer than my inlaw's... I truly hope this will do it. Crossing fingers here...
Thank you Dave!
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As I read the first sentences of your issue I thought immediately that it was the power supply.
I've experienced this same issue with 300W and needing more powerful one. Same thing fans seem to turn, lights up but nothing from computer.
I believe that really is the issue.
Good luck.
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This is what it looks like... let's see what will happen after this weekend...
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Don't know if anybody has said this, but it might be the graphics drivers from the old card?...try booting in safe mode by multiple pressing the F8 key while the computer boots, you should see a Dos style menu come up that will let you choose Safe Mode (choose no graphics drivers if it gives you the option).
If you can get in safe mode, un-install the old graphics drivers and reboot back to normal mode, then install your new graphics drivers and software for the new card.
Not 100% sure that's what it is but if you have tried all the hardware things, it might be it.
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This is not the current reason as the computer is not passing the BIOS POST screen... Probably this is what will happen after the HW issues will be solved...
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If there are components that you can unplug to temporarily lower the power draw, then try that.
Additional hard drives, DVD-ROM etc.
If that works then you will know that the PSU isn't beefy enough and you need another one.
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If there were lots of things there I would test it but only disconnecting the DVD probably won't make any difference...
Anyway I'll make some testing before getting the new PSU.
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Yeah, disconnecting the DVD probably won't make any difference if there's no DVD in it.
Good luck.
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Ok those are my ideas:
- Can you try this card in another PC, it could be a damage Video Card.
- I smell that you can have a compatibility issue, try to check if you main board chip-sets are compatible with this Video Card. Not sure how old is the main boards, it could be just a setting in the Bios. (do it before plugging the Video Card)
- Try the 400Watts +, maybe that is all you need.
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Hi!
I won't be able to test the card in any other computer, and it looks like there is a compatibility issue between the motherboard and the card itself plus not enough Watts from the PSU... so I'll have to change the PSU and then do some tricks I've seen in a youtube video where they explain how to make it work with his motherboard...
Thank you for your post!
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Simple Advice: NEVER help friends or family with their computers! ))
Honestly, it sounds like putting a new Power Supply in there will work fine.
The Wattage is the maximum output, not the amount of power FORCED into the system.
It will simply let the video card draw the extra power it needs. ($30-$60.00)
Considering your time and what the adapter costs. The power supply is probably the fastest simplest way to wrap this up.
I jumped into this thread because after Microsofts Update, a few programs started misbehaving and I had to install 7 different versions of my AMD RADEON driver to find a stable one... I was thinking I was not alone... LOL
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Joan Murt wrote: Do you think changing the power supply will do it?
Probably. Its likely drawing so much current at some voltage that its drooping too low. If it has a connector for the power supply to directly connect to it, you'll want to connect that too -- sometimes the traces on the motherboard just can't supply the kind of current a graphics card needs.
Even if you can get the card to work with his current power supply, you probably want to upgrade it. When he pushes the thing really hard, it could draw enough to cause the system to be unstable.
FYI, a graphic card's power supply specs are not because it needs that much power itself, its usually because PSUs of that class have sufficient amperage at some needed voltage. That's too fiddly to be worth the trouble, but if you know how to check it, its worth doing -- not all PSUs of a given wattage class have the same voltage/current capacities.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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Yes, after reading a lot of posts here I've become aware of how the PSU's work +/-.
Thank you for your recommendations!
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THE...PROBLEM...IS...THE...PSU. REPLACE...IT. PERIOD. END...THIS...PAINFUL...THREAD.
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As far as I've seen, the PSU is one of the problems.
It looks like the GPU needs at least 400W and the current PSU has only 300W. This is clear. Now, after some nice posts of other members I've known that there are other details that are important regarding the PSU capabilities which I'll double check at the shop this weekend.
But, there's always one but, this is 100% sure not the only problem.
After receiving some answers, I've seen that the motherboard installed in that computer has strange compatibility problems and that I'll be forced to update the BIOS from 7.13 to 7.16A which is the latest version from 2012 and even after doing that I'll have to make some extra steps to make it work.
Now, I'm curious: why you are shouting? why this was a painful thread?
This community is great to get help and again it has proven that it works wonderfully well to provide it...
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Probably I won't need that amount of Watts, but let's see what we can find at the shop this weekend.
Thank you!
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It's been a while since I have done a lot of work with graphics cards (and I don't have time to read all the posts, maybe this was already suggested.)
Have you tried putting the old graphics card in, firing up windows, and switching to the generic VGA driver (can you still do that with newer versions of Windows?) and then putting the new card in?
Wayne
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Nope, this will be the second set of problems (software ones) now the computer is not capable to go after the BIOS POST screen, therefore the OS drivers are still not the issue...
Thank you!
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This may help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkBTSlBW2oc[^]
This guy has the same problem as you and he's got a 600w PSU. It seems to me to be an incompatibility between the HP bios and the nvdia card.
modified 19-Jan-15 14:37pm.
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