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Not interested, but not entirely sure why. I would just rather stay here on earth.
I think it will happen in my lifetime.
They[^] go to mars
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1: Yes, but as said before, it'll be so long before Mars will be open to ordinary folk that my grandchildren's grandchildren may get a shot.
2: Once they get there and establish a small colony; a proof of concept, so to speak the next stages will start to happen more rapidly as the need for new technologies pushes innovation and discovery forward. Probably at least 100 years.
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1. I'm too old for the pioneering life, but if my grandchildren wanted to join - I certainly wouldn't stand in their way.
2. The answer to (1) implies that I think that it will be at least 30-40 years from today before the Mars colony is ready for such expansion. Don't forget that the colonists won't be the "poor, huddled masses yearning to be free", but highly-skilled engineers, scientists etc. I suspect that couples in which one of the partners does not fit an "essential skills" slot will be rejected out-of-hand.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Do not start what I think you are trying to start.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: Do not start what I think you are trying to start. No idea what you're referring to.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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Right.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Honestly, I have no clue what you mean.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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What do you mean?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Curse you.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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How much yodelling[^] will be involved?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Everything we see, hear, feel, and do is either an integral part of or highly influenced by the lump of assorted rocks we live on.
Even the gravity of the Earth and the Moon affect the way we think, by introducing stresses that are countered in our bodies by hormones -- so the effects of the environment we interact with more brutally are naturally more brutal.
Do I want to know what changes standing on another planet will make to me, both physically and psychologically?
You're joking, right?
Where do I sign? Just give me the piece of paper to sign. I can be ready to leave in, oh, about three seconds.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Yeah, that is my opinion as well.
I'm too old and decrepit (heavy on the decrepit) to be considered even if it were a reality today, but I'd be willing in a heartbeat.
As for the eventuality... I suspect we're still a century or more away.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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Mars doesn't have an ozone layer, as a matter of fact it doesn't have an atmosphere to begin with, it also doesn't have a magnetic field, which means all the high energy radiation from the sun will kill any organic life very quickly.
The only chance they would have is to live deep underground in some caves. So technically it would not be on Mars, but underground Mars.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Kamen Nik wrote: as a matter of fact it doesn't have an atmosphere to begin with
Oh, really[^]?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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"The atmospheric pressure on the Martian surface averages 600 pascals (0.087 psi), about 0.6% of Earth's mean sea level pressure"
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Exactly my point: "it has a very thin atmosphere" is not the same thing as "it doesn't have an atmosphere".
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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1. No. When two people are present, you have three opinions. I do NOT want to imagine the politics involved there... things are bad enough already. Think "Lord of the Flies", but on a different planet.
2. Until there is an economical benefit from sending people to Mars, not likely to happen in my lifetime.
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Mike Mullikin wrote: Are you interested? Why or why not?
No, because even 5000 less people on earth will make this planet a nicer (albeit very slightly nicer) place.
Besides that, I could never imagine wanting to live in tiny enclosed dwellings, never feel the sun on my face, the wind in my hair, the spring of warm grass on my feet, the gentle wooshing sound of the ocean, the cardinal that visits in the morning outside my window.
Heck, send all the people to Mars, I'll stay here.
Mike Mullikin wrote: How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?
200-300 years, barring any major wars or environmental disasters.
Send three guys, one of which has to stay in orbit, to the moon was an amazing technical feat. Having several people live on the space station where we have to haul up thousands of pounds of supplies every month is also an amazing technical feat. But we have yet to demonstrate we can have a sustainable group of people in LEO, or the moon, before venturing something like Mars. There's still a huge number of problems to solve, including how to make one's own sh*t taste like bacon.
Heck, we have yet to demonstrate that the population of human beings on the earth is sustainable.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: Heck, we have yet to demonstrate that the population of human beings on the earth is sustainable. How many more millenniums will it take to convince you?
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Mike Mullikin wrote: How many more millenniums will it take to convince you?
Well, let's see:
Every person has adequate nutrition. Given that 50% of the children on the planet don't, let's say 100 years.
Every person gets an education. Another 100 years.
Population growth levels off (and not by war, famine, disease, disaster, etc): Probably 500 years
Species / Forest / Ocean destruction stops. Hmmm....let's say 250 years, because nature will probably remove most of us cockroaches by then as most ecosystems completely collapse.
So, at least 5 millenium.
Marc
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All the more reason we need to look for a new planet to destroy occupy.
Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.
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Marc Clifton wrote: never feel the sun on my face, the wind in my hair, the spring of warm grass on my feet, the gentle wooshing sound of the ocean, the cardinal that visits in the morning outside my window.
Queue in some late 60's folk music now.
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Slacker007 wrote: Queue in some late 60's folk music now
Aye, I forgot to mention a midnight moonlit skinnydip with a beautiful woman.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: midnight moonlit skinnydip with a beautiful woman.
Now queue in some 70's adult film music.
Ok, I will stop here before my replies get way out of control.
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Marc Clifton wrote: the cardinal that visits in the morning outside my window.
Hope it's not this Cardinal[^].
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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