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OriginalGriff wrote: Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...
I am lame for not noticing. I'm a touch-typist too. Should'a known. <forehad slap>
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Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.
I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.
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BryanFazekas wrote: being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.
Yeah, I think you are right about that. I've been touch-typing for over 30 years (learned by playing WizType (Wizard of Id) on a Commodore 128). Amazing, you can actually play the game on Archive.org right in your browser.[^] I just tried it.
Anyways, you are right. I just type, I don't know where the keys are.
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But a regular PC user should recognize Undo, Cut, Copy and Paste.
Truth,
James
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Yep, kind of why I think lighted keyboards are pretty useless for me.
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I have this horrible feeling there's this whole dark and raging qwerty vs zxcvbn thing going on that I'm unaware of.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Waiting for some angry ANSI X4.22-1983[^] fan to point out that their bottom row reads zqjkxbmwv .
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Are there any left? I though that war was over ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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OpenVMS also has a list of words/names which aren't allowed to be passwords. While going through it many years ago I noticed a few LOTR references. I also noticed the absence of a particularly offensive word -- I suppose it's so offensive that they didn't want to risk having it anywhere on the system.
I may need to add the file you mention to my database of word lists.
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What do you think about the surnames.txt?
My surname is not in the list so I guess I'm safe.
Seriously, though, are last names used in some type of hack?
Well, i guess everything is, but didn't know surnames had some kind of special thing associated with them.
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I first learned of the list in VMS because a manager where I was working at the time (1990) wanted to set his password to "ORANGE".
At a later job, I extracted the four- and five-letter words, cleansed the result, and used them to form pairs to be used as passwords. A precedent had been set to make passwords such as HOUSE$BOAT, and I wanted to automate/randomize it.
As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive because not all terminals support lower-case.
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
PIEBALDconsult wrote: As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive
Did not know. I'm a newb.
PIEBALDconsult wrote: not all terminals support lower-case.
Sounds like an Apple ][
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I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.
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The (mechanical) teletype terminals I used at school in the 70s only had upper case. The delete character was shifted O and it was a standing joke to say "Oh-shift ;I've mistyped!"
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raddevus wrote: zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
Because someone thought that, essentially, using qwerty+1 was being smart.
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I'm not very impressed with male_names.txt - it's not even close to complete.
OriginalGriff isn't even in there!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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But, your given name is in there, right?
Mine is.
Also, I was reading down through the list of passwords.txt and I started cracking up.
How are some of these "common"? People need their minds washed out!!
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Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president.
And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)
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Clearly it's not meant to be a very exhaustive list, which leads me to ask...what is this intended to be used for anyway?
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A very incomplete list indeed.
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There's 30000 entries in mine!
The sublist that contains the word f**k is pretty extensive.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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jeron1 wrote: There's 30000 entries in mine!
I know. And some of the common (and filthy) ones are shocking. Shocking that many "12yr old boy" minds think of such stupid things.
Do not search thru them with the text "lick"!
Troll....all you guys are doing that now.
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Do I use Microsoft Edge?
No.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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I actually use FireFox & Brave and I'm almost as completely agnostic to browsers these days.
I discovered this when i was running on a work win10 VM which requires us to use MS Edge.
I'm basically agnostic to OSes too, since I run Ubuntu 22.04 desktop to connect to work VMs (win10) and I KVM switch to my MacOS Mac Mini M1.
modified 21-Feb-23 17:23pm.
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I think most of use whatever we got used to, I have used Brave (on my Debian system) and sometimes Vivaldi. I lied somewhat, I have to use Edge when I connect (VPN) to the client;s systems, that is what they have. Herself uses Safari on her MBP. Not aware that it is a browser, it is gmail.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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