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Nelek wrote: Nope... it is Murphy's
Me an him gotta have a talk. 
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"Who's this General Failure and why is he reading my hard drive?!"
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It just KNOWS when you are ready for it.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Mike Hankey wrote: Is it like a law of nature?
It's because Mother Nature is a real mother... 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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What is this "tree" of which you speak?
Will Rogers never met me.
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Oak Tree about 2' in diameter and about 60' tall.
And the bitch is that it fell back towards a creek in our back yard so some of it will be tricky to get out.
That and I can only work a short time in the morning as its 80 degrees with feels like in the 90s.
I'm too old for this sh*t!
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Ouch! Of course, my pity is abated somewhat by it being 120°+ here this week. Still, standing in front of a casino Thursday in this heat, watching fireworks over the Colorado River, is something I'd rather be doing than trimming a giant oak tree, in any temperature! Go slow, and take frequent breaks, Mike!
Will Rogers never met me.
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Hydrate, Hydrate, Hydrate...
I remember growing up in Phoenix, there was a week where it was 120+ and all we had was a swamp cooler.
It was hot, damn hot.
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The real question is "did it make a sound when it fell?"
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maybe it barked ?
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I wasn't there to hear it, so the question still remains.
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And it's risen by 30% this year - an extra £60!
So I look around to find out why and it turns out that's not bad - the average rise in the UK this year is 43%. Bloody glad I'm not still 17 ... they pay an average of £3,145 
I'm still going to shop around, but ... looks like it might be not too bad a price after all. 
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Mine went up 60%.
Getting where I almost can't afford to drive, or eat or ...
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Yeah - I guess the increase in value due to the cost of EVs has helped push the cost up generally, even if you don't drive an EV (because I can't charge one anywhere near home).
I just tried a couple of the "insurance comparison" sites, and they couldn't get below the renewal price - the closest was £30 more!
I'm really, really glad I'm not 17 any more ... 
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OriginalGriff wrote: I'm really, really glad I'm not 17 any more ...
I hear ya
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Mine went up 40% about 5 months ago, and that's the average increase.
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The old car we just kept about the same, I think an extra £10, but it is terrible.
Looking forward to the main car in the Autumn, I'm expecting an extra £200 at least.
veni bibi saltavi
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I had the same issue. I looked around and got it for less than I paid last year.
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I just glad my car is a (relatively) low insurance group: 15E
For a laugh, I checked the group for Teslas - they start at 36 and go up to 50! Try buying an EV when you are 17 ...
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I have an eighteen year old Toyota so it's group 13.
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18 years ago I paid a bit under $1500/yr for my car insurance.
Today it's a bit under $1400/yr. It's the same car. It's 18 years old and now practically worthless. Never claimed anything.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Bloody glad I'm not still 17
May I disagree? I'd rather be 17. Better yet: 30... insurance cost and everything 
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: I'd rather be 17. Better yet: 30
I would go for the mid 20ies... but knowing what I know now. Where do I sign?
M.D.V. 
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Nelek wrote: but knowing what I know now
And missing the chance to do all the stupid things I did when I was young? What would be the fun? 
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: And missing the chance to do all the stupid things I did when I was young?
Who is telling I wouldn't do them knowing what I do know now?  
M.D.V. 
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