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I am running W10 on a 2.5 year old MBP, Fusion, Thunderbolt (1.0) attached SSD and I think performance is good.
No compile times to share though, mostly doing Outlook/Excel add ins so small stuff. I have run with projector attached but no second display. VS 2015 only, have not loaded 2017.
Have run W7 and W10 via USB 3.0 and it is OK but no VS, only some program testing.
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Anonymous
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Hi, yes I'm on VS2015 and it works fine inside Fusion, faster than Xcode for sure.
Bootcamp is preferred when you're into video editing and games etc, but for a developer I think Fusion is swell.
I also have lots of legacy code, mostly C++/MFC and it can be nerve-racking to compile those old projects when perhaps 50 Windows updates has discombobulated my Visual Studio 2010 into smithereens.
Solution: your Windows VM inside Fusion is just a folder, back it up often, that way you can time travel back to 2010 if needed.
To further keep my sanity intact I switched to Qt a few years ago, but that's another story
Rgrds Henry
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Henry Skoglund wrote: faster than Xcode for sure
Not exactly a high bar
OK, I'll give it a shot.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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As far as I'm concerned, believing that it's the most suitable to install and use VMWare Fusion/Workstation virtual machine that allows to boot a guest VM's OS from the physical partition on your Mac's HDD:
<a href="https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation.html">https://www.vmware.com/products/workstation.html</a>
<a href="https://www.vmware.com/products/fusion.html">Fusion | Running Windows On Mac Virtual Machine | VMware</a>[<a href="https://www.vmware.com/products/fusion.html" target="_blank" title="New Window">^</a>]
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In theory running a VM solves lots of issues.
In practice I've seen VMs to be slow and cumbersome when it comes to CPU or GPU intensive tasks.
[Aside: Arthur - it seems you have the "reat my content as plain text, not as HTML " checkbox checked whenever you post messages. You may want to consider unchecking it if you want to include live hyperlinks and emoticons]
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Thanks for your interest to my reply. As for VM's usage, to avoid system to slow down and cumbersomeness it's recommended to use powerful hi-end iMac PCs. As far as I know, the currently up-to-date latest iMac PCs are based on such high performance hardware as Intel Xeon E5 processors, ultra-speed DDR4-3200 RAM, hi-end models of AMD Radeon GPUs, fast SSD HDDs with a high capacity, etc. The using of VM's as a software-level solution provides a flexibility solution to the problem you've just previously introduced. Since, then, for example, you'll no longer need to try out different displays and other legacy hardware, etc.
In advance, I'll keep that in mind not to use "Treat my content as plain text, not as HTML" option. By the way, previously this option had a slightly different behavior.
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Because I travel a lot I'm limited to laptops, and it's always a trade off between power and weight. I figured the latest MacBook Pro would be a good upgrade from my 3 year old MacBook Air but I'm wishing I'd kept the Air.
In the end the Pro is only about 5-10% faster than the Air for tasks such as compiling. It's a little disappointing.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Quote: As far as I know, the currently up-to-date latest iMac PCs are based on such high performance hardware as Intel Xeon E5 processors, ultra-speed DDR4-3200 RAM, hi-end models of AMD Radeon GPUs, fast SSD HDDs with a high capacity, etc. The using of VM's as a software-level solution provides a flexibility solution to the problem you've just previously introduced. Since, then, for example, you'll no longer need to try out different displays and other legacy hardware, etc. Smile |
As I have already explained, just for your interest, there're Apple iMac laptops built based on similar performance hi-end components as well as the desktop PC such as iMac Pro.
Apple MacBook Pro is a rather good alternative that would exactly satisfy your needs in a perfect PC that would allow to setup and use the either Mac OS X or Microsoft Windows by using Bootcamp or VMware Fusion VMs, or whatsoever.
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And, also, as it just seems to me VMware Fusion for Mac is a lightweight virtual machine, which is even more lightweight than VMware Workstation for Windows.
And also, an idea for programming enthusiasts: what about to build the minimalistic qemu virtual machine for Linux from sources under Apple MacOS. Is it really possible ? Just for fun
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I wonder what they're saying to each other.
Marc
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Bryian Tan
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I'm thinking it's something rather disappointing, along the lines of this
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They've got a CP account.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Facebook shutdowns its AI
Facebook Shut Down AI After It Invented Its Own Language[^]
Language looks like this
Quote: In one exchange revealed by Facebook to Fast Co. Design, two negotiating bots—Bob and Alice—started using their own language to complete a conversation.
“I can i i everything else,” Bob said.
“Balls have zero to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to,” Alice responded.
The rest of the exchange formed variations of these sentences in the newly-forged dialect, even though the AIs were programmed to use English.
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Bob was trying to pick up Alice, and she was having none of it.
(Ted and Carol could not be reached for comment.)
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Until AI developed their own programming language(or code directly 0s and 1s) to rewrite their own subroutine, I'm not worried.
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Dear Colleagues,
Eventually, I've got one more question for you: Do I really contribute articles containing a harmful spam to the CodeProject's web site, don't I ?! Confused |
Recently, I've posted an article introducing the Windows Vista/7 sidebar gadget intended to load and render the articles-specific data from the CodeProject's main web page.
*ALSO*, some time ago, I've previously posted a message with my question if development and using of such web applications is not itself harmful and dangerous to the CodeProject's web site. Finally, as the respond, I've been suggested to complete this gadget's development and compose an article being presently contributed to the CodeProject.
An hour ago, I've already posted a message with a similar subject under the site bugs and suggestion forum, *BUT*, this post was marked as spam as well under no reason ?! Confused |
Thanks a lot for reading this message.
I'm sorry for cloning this message in more than one forum, *BUT* I would kindly appreciate if it would also be available in the general discussion community forum which posts are shown up right in the CodeProject's main page.
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I have seen that happen serveral times yesterday. There probably has been some change in the code that makes the side site a little too paranoid. Let's just pretend not to have noticed it.
modified 30-Jul-17 8:25am.
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Thanks kindly for your reply, but what do you actually mean: "There probably has been some change in the code that makes the side a little too paranoid" ??
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If your message is not spam then it will be flagged by one of the moderators when they have time to review it. There really is no need for you to get so upset every time something like this happens.
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Thanks, Richard. The message has already been unflagged. Sorry for bothering the community with my question, which actually was not needed to post it.
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Not upset - just interested. I just had a message flagged as spam. It's not like I'm a newbie here, and it's not like I've got a very low rep score, so why would CP assume that my message was spam?
Also, it's never happened before despite me being here for 13 years, so surely it must be something new?
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Yes it is something new; all discussed (and explained by Chris) in Bugs & Sugs.
You may not be aware but the number of Spam messages continues to increase and it is an ongoing battle to get rid of them, and their authors. The CodeProject team have to work pretty hard as it is, without these trolls and idiots adding to their workload. So if the spam filter is a bit more aggressive than previously it is just another attempt to keep the site clean for the rest of us.
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That's cool, I've just missed it...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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