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But you know what happens when you youngsters are left unshackled.
300 different javascript frameworks, that's what.
There's a point in having you explain things properly, you're forced to think over all the steps while explaining.
My current job is free of micromanagement, so I have to grab a coworker when I need to sanitycheck what I'm doing.
And with that I'm arriving at your problem.
Micromanagement is a cultural problem in your company, it has nothing todo with the age of your managers.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: Micromanagement is a cultural problem
Very true, especially if you are working in a big corporate companies.
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You are going to be an old fart some day, and these comments will come back to haunt you.
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With an attitude like his, I don't think he'll last that long.
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With any luck he'll remember these comments when he gets older and learns from them.
Whenever I get a little too high and mighty its time to go look at some of the code from early in my career. That's assuming I can even understand what I was trying to do at the time. Nothing brings you back to Earth faster than seeing how far you've come.
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Vunic wrote: You find it difficult to grasp the context of a quick-running text chat Or, more likely, you aren't included in the previous conversations that give these chats context.Vunic wrote: You look for lengthy VOICE calls to understand every problem, feature, and you need a lot of help to recollect the past-discussions. Or, you are looking after so many items and aren't included in the micro-discussions that occur between team members so you need these discussions to explain to you exactly what the thundering dunderheads are trying to BS past you; no, you don't need to rewrite the app in the latest iteration of Angular as both you and I know that all you need to do is fix a CSS bug but you want to take the opportunity to pad your CV.
Vunic wrote: You need something to be drawn on the board every time. Ah yes, because forcing you to draw something on the board enables me to put this in context with the 100 other projects I'm also involved in while this is all you have to do on a daily basis so of course you understand it better than I do.
Or, to put it another way, the reason you need to explain things to me is because I have to look after a lot more than you do while, simultaneously, having business skills as well. Remember, just because they can't do your job any more doesn't mean that you can do theirs.
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I agree with everything above but have to air one pet peeve about my current environment.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote: to put this in context with the 100 other projects I'm also involved in That's great, I want to make sure the solution I'm proposing plays nice with those 100+ other projects too. When the reason I need to use a particular vendor, technology, or widget is "to better align with our other strategies" without any sort of context then I'm left just as clueless as I was before. Give me something to work off of so I don't waste my time and yours in the future. Don't need all the details but some sort of high level idea would be nice.
Yes, it's a communication and a culture problem.
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Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
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Thats a bit harsh, the best most upto date programmer engineer I work for was born in the 60's. He was so upto date as he had been at the coal face since day one.
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Vunic wrote:
Quick solution:
Retire.
But I've still got plenty of tread left on the current ones.
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Hey man, there's a horde of teenager brilliant developers asking for your retirement.
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Are they the same teenagers that populate Q&A?
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Are the teenagers of his team which also populate Q&A.
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Definitely, I'm honking at the trucks going ahead of me blocking the way. And I see the Ferraries gradually appearing on my side mirrors. That's a good thing. Keeps me searching for the next gear.
Starting to think people post kid pics in their profiles because that was the last time they were cute - Jeremy Falcon.
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...to all you young' uns about who it was that built the computers you now earn your living off....
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Yeah, that I can't wait until he realizes living live through text is a problem... not the solution.
Jeremy Falcon
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To summarize all previous replies:
If you don't see sarcasm in this post - retire.
P.S.
I was born somewhere in 60s. In addition, I hate smartphones Actually, I hate all mobile devices. Vunic, please add this to your list.
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I am sure you never went past channel 12 on your TV.
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I'm 39 and I agree with you man. We lost something... mainly how to communicate. A text message based life is one devoid of real human interaction. May as well be robots with no love in life ya know.
Jeremy Falcon
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Well, at least, if we want to write some text, we use Notepad and don't upload video to Youtube like new generation youngsters.
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As unlikely as it seems that anyone who grew up without a Facebook account could possibly be able to program a computer; should you ever get stuck on anything, just send a post card to your local retirement village marked "PLZ SEND CODEZ" and you might be surprised at the results.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Vunic wrote: 1.You are born somewhere between the 60s-70s
That should hit a good part of the Lounge regulars, so you are exposing yourself a lot here !
If I had to pick it up seriously, board and voice are my favorite tools. I hate the internal facebook and chat system, I get things solved more quickly when talking to people. I only spend 50% of my time at my desk, the rest I am at people's place to talk to them. ( Of course, I take care not to interrupt them if they are in the middle of something else ).
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