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My retirement age exceeds my life expectancy, so no.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Should we rename the Towers of Hanoi the Towers of e-Mail?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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People at work are stunned when, for example in a screen sharing session, they notice how organized my inbox is. I currently have 4 items, 3 flagged as important. Everything else is organized into folders by customer and third-party vendors, often with sub-folders on particular tasks and email correspondences. While the main inbox is not often totally empty, the # of items usually doesn't exceed a dozen by the end of each day.
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Same here - but I never let others see it
"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg
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I joke that I cause rain by closing all my notepad++ tabs. It leaves a local vacuum and pulls in all the clouds.
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Same. And the last tab is new20!
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Which idiot ever came to the idea that editing MSOffice documents in a browser would be a good idea ?
No, I do NOT WANT TO EDIT MY DOCUMENTS in a Freaking browser, because as the name says, it is a BROWSER and not an EDITOR.
Sorry, I had to vent. Please give me my IT world back from 10 years ago - Everything has only been going downhill since then.
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What gave you the idea that you are in control?
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Rage wrote: Which idiot ever came to the idea that editing MSOffice documents in a browser would be a good idea ?
Google? (lots of competition from Google Suite in browser)
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Let me introduce you to the Chromebook...
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Rage wrote: Please give me my IT world back from 10 years ago
Pretty sure CodeMirror is an editor that it built to run in a browser. Well more specifically it is a component that runs in a page that runs in a browser.
It was released in 2007.
Looking at it I can see it even claims to work on cell/mobile devices.
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Not only document editing. The same goes for software development tools. And photo / video / sound editing. And whathaveyou.
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I kept my Windows 8 machine ... so they can't take that away from me. I plan to do the same up the line.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Rage wrote: Please give me my IT world back from 10 years ago - Everything has only been going downhill since then. I agree
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Not only that, but the browser based Office applications are crap. Excel On-Line doesn't properly report circular references; Word On-Line can't format itself out of a wet paper bag; Project On-Line is 100% useless, etc.
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You should try Outlook on web. A lot of very basic functionality is still not available.
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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With you on that my friend! In a long career I haven't yet come across a well-designed browser app whose UX is anything like as good as the native equivalent. Even with all the fancy JS or other libraries, browser app UIs remain awkward and clunky.
And don't get me started on touchscreen cellphone apps.. Uggh!
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With you on that my friend! In a long career I haven't yet come across a well-designed browser app whose UX is anything like as good as the native equivalent. Even with all the fancy JS or other libraries, browser app UIs remain awkward and clunky.
And don't get me started on touchscreen cellphone apps.. Uggh!
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Rage wrote: Please give me my IT world back from 10 years ago - Everything has only been going downhill since then.
1000% agree. My husband I discuss this ALL the time. He provides infrastructure support for consulting clients and I'm a developer. They want to move everything and everyone to the cloud, with degraded experiences. Every week, some kind of update makes things worse - less secure, more buggy, worse UI. We've been in the industry for over 25 years, and things used to get better, but now they do not.
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Totally agree. But we are currently porting our, huge, business system to a web application, and one of the primary jobs involve interacting with documents and opening them in an editor.
Without MSOffice online, we wouldn't be able to do that.
On the other hand, if MSOffice wasn't online, I could have shut down that design fart real quick.
"God doesn't play dice" - Albert Einstein
"God not only plays dice, He sometimes throws the dices where they cannot be seen" - Niels Bohr
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I totally agree! I am forever amazed at why people think it makes sense to abstract the entire computer through a browser. Software distribution isn't the challenge it once was, but it seems people are still trying to work around a problem that no longer exists.
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Quote: Please give me my IT world back from 10 years ago - Everything has only been going downhill since then.
There's the problem -- you thought it was your IT world (a.k.a. your computer and software).
On the bright side, I can now setup a computer without out installing any MSOffice software. When a user must deal with a legacy MS document, I point them at the web app. I realize this isn't an option for most people, but it is liberating for those of us who can live this way.
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Who ever thought running everything in a browser would make for some nice consistency should remember what Emmerson said: A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
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I dream that one day the browser basically gets gutted and everything swings full circle.
In that imagined utopia browsers pull and launch containers and guide the user to permission control granting varying levels of container access to the real metal.
The desktops may be many different flavors, but everything wants to be desktop client/server and web app becomes the old dirty thing some people have to maintain in some cases but few want to actually greenfield.
...And JS grabs a room forever with COBOL.
It's a far better way with far more possibility and much less headache. Web/micro services and such all remain and do all the heavy lifting they do now.
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You know I see web apps as just another way to sell more development tools, more training, and more metal. I have been in this industry since Bill Gates was using Paper Tape. The wheel keeps going round and round reinventing what wasn't broken. We went from Glass House to the PC Revolution to Client/Server and now back to the renamed glass house called the Cloud. I haven't seen anything browser applications can do that can't be done with Remote Desktop Protocol.
There is a reason COBOL is still around.. IT JUST WORKS! There is a reason Microsoft hasn't killed of MS-Access yet (though they have threatened to many times).. because there are Billions of lines of VBA code out there and IT JUST WORKS!
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