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dandy72 wrote: migrating more and more of the old dialog boxes that work to a new UI that doesn't.
Totally agree and your example is a great one that shows yet another failure that is similar to this whole MODERN UI failure that is a FAILURE OF UX (User Experience) ala I just remember that I hate using these products.
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How about "Show Window Contents while Dragging". I found the options dialog didn't have this setting any more - at all! I ended up setting the setting manually from code when I started a drag and then restoring it when finished. This worked great by the way but being able to set it for a given application is no longer possible - AFAIK.
The UI options are going down the tubes until the UX sux!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I blame the Steves of the world.
Steve Jobs for coming up with the iPad and convincing the world that touch screens were the future.
Then Steve Ballmer for going into a panic and thinking the world was going to abandon Windows in favor of tablets unless it went all touch-friendly and giving us Windows 8 as a response. Then they scaled it back with 10 seeing the failure that 8 was, but MS would never admit to making a mistake and abandon that step back of a UI.
7 is still the last usable version of Windows. It's no accident it's also the last version that predates touch UIs.
Someone prove me wrong.
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dandy72 wrote: Steve Jobs
dandy72 wrote: Steve Ballmer
Down with Steves!!
dandy72 wrote: Someone prove me wrong.
No one can.
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To the Eric Conspiracy we can now add the Steve Conspiracy...
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I use 'Classic Shell' which among other things changes the Start Menu to look just like Windows 7. You can find the Mouse Settings from the Control Panel menu.
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Roland M Smith wrote: I use 'Classic Shell'
Interesting. a third-party shell? Wow.
Roland M Smith wrote: You can find the Mouse Settings from the Control Panel men
Hahaha, you've opened up another door for me to bring a rant!
you cannot get to Control Panel from the Start Menu (right-click) any more.
https://i.stack.imgur.com/0FWZ0.png[^]
Or, did you mean in ClassicShell?
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raddevus wrote: you cannot get to Control Panel from the Start Menu (right-click) any more
To me, the solution I eventually found for that makes things simpler than accessing it from the Start menu right-click in the first place: Pin the Control Panel applet right on the taskbar.
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dandy72 wrote: Pin the Control Panel applet right on the taskbar.
Good answer...
...but...WHINE ====> I already have so many other things pinned!!! WHINE
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Get a 4K monitor. I'm currently counting 19 items on the taskbar (excluding the Cortana and Task View icons), and it's not even using one third of the available width.
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Ok, so my 19 (+2) icons are taking roughly half the vertical space on the 4K monitor.
FWIW, I've used vertical taskbars for a good while, years ago. I'm somewhat ambivalent; I can take it or leave it. One of my secondary monitors is arranged vertically (1200x1920)--even though it's great for long web pages or coding windows (which benefit from being taller than wide), a vertical taskbar is definitely a non-starter on that monitor, as you're already left with very little space horizontally. And I hate auto-collapsing taskbars, so I'm not even going there.
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dandy72 wrote: Ok, so my 19 (+2) icons are taking roughly half the vertical space on the 4K monitor.
It's all good. I was just kidding about horizontal being old school of course.
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...but I am old-school.
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dandy72 wrote: ...but I am old-school
Genuine LOL!
Me too.
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Classic Shell[^]
In Classic Shell with the Start Menu set to Windows 7 you get a Control Panel menu item with all the CP widgets below it.
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It's because they wanted a unified operating system for everything, so everything needs to work with your fingers.
So allow me to introduce the Apple Pencil - Apple[^]
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Had to kill them off so they could invent them!
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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S Douglas wrote: Had to kill them off so they could invent them
So true!!
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*A friend or whoever comes to a visit*
- Hey, what's a pass to WI-FI?
- Give me a second, I will check in the settings... uhm, oh... uhuh.... aaah...
Navigating new-old Win 10 UI reminds me this comic:
xkcd: Troubleshooting[^]
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Yep, that's a great xkcd to explain win10 User Experience.
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Jacek Gajek wrote: A friend or whoever comes to a visit
- Hey, what's a pass to WI-FI?
- Give me a second, I will check in the settings... uhm, oh... uhuh.... aaah...
I've solved that problem with a PowerShell script. Sorry about the formatting - it insists on pasting it that way.
$output = netsh wlan show profiles
$profiles = @()
foreach ( $line in $output )
{
$index = $line.LastIndexOf( ": " )
if ( $index -eq -1 ) { continue }
$afterColon = $line.Substring( $index + 2 )
if ( $afterColon.Trim() -ne "" ) { $profiles += $afterColon }
}
$profilesWithPasswords = @()
foreach ( $profile in $profiles | Sort-Object )
{
$output = netsh wlan show profiles "$profile" key=clear
$pwd = ""
$authentication = ""
<pre>
foreach ( $line in $output )
{
$index = $line.LastIndexOf( "Authentication" )
if ( $index -ne -1 )
{
$index = $line.LastIndexOf( ": " )
if ( $index -eq -1 ) { $authentication = "<unknown>" }
else { $authentication = $line.Substring( $index + 2 ) }
continue
}
$index = $line.LastIndexOf( "Key Content" )
if ( $index -ne -1 )
{
$index = $line.LastIndexOf( ": " )
if ( $index -eq -1 ) { continue }
$pwd = $line.Substring( $index + 2 ).Trim()
continue
}
}
if ( $pwd -eq "" )
{
if ( $authentication -ne "Open" ) { $pwd = "<unknown>" }
#else { $pwd = "<unknown>" }
}
$profilesWithPasswords += New-Object -TypeName PSObject -Prop ( @{ 'Profile'=$profile; 'Password'=$pwd } )
}
Write-Host "Found $($profilesWithPasswords.Count) wifi profiles:"
$profilesWithPasswords | Format-Table Profile, Password
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...seriously?
Not saying that I know every XKCD comic, but I totally do... and that solution reminds another one:
xkcd: Command Line Fu[^]
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