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den2k88 wrote: the usual 6€/hour For someone in IT?
We go for around 10x that at the bare minimum.
My employer outsources me for €100,- an hour, but they take quite a share.
I can't ask that much as a freelancer, but even though my hourly rate is less I get to keep it all still netting me more
I've worked with an architect who got €110,- an hour out of the €125,- the company paid for him.
And some idiot manager who produces negative output (he frustrates everyone around him) gets even more than that.
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For a software engineer in a hi-tech company.
Hey, I earn 12€/hour now as a Software Engineering cosnultant with 7 years of experience and I'm basically overpayed.
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Sander Rossel wrote: And some idiot manager who produces negative output (he frustrates everyone around him) gets even more than that
+1 especially for this..!
Try to find out fool in a deal. If you can't find one, it's you.
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Know the feeling!
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Yeah, I followed your "InThePub" and "BackInThePub" perils!
It's fun for one or two weeks, just like vacation, but nothing beats having a paid job that's fun, where you can learn and contribute to society (or at least a company).
Except maybe having lots of money and never having to work again
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T'was a bit frustrating, Working there is 'I'll do that when I have time', not working 'If I had the money I would do it'... but being paid is great for you!!
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Gratz
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Thanks
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Sander Rossel wrote: A welcome vacation (I finished Dragon Quest XI, awesome game) I've got it installed and waiting.
Player reviews say it's almost as good as Dragon Quest 8, so it must be bloody marvellous!
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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This was my first DQ and I loved it.
I played this one because it was one of the best games of 2018 and because I read that this is the best DQ to date.
Took me 130 hours to beat (at 100%), that's what I call your money's worth
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DQ8 and Outcast[^]* are my two most favourite games ever, so let's see if the latest DQ can knock Outcast of it's pedestal.
DQ2 was my first in the series, then DQ1, and then all the others as they came out. They beat FF hands down.
* Don't bother with the "updated" version of Outcast unless you're happy playing games sitting at a desk, with mouse & keyboard; it's the same game, anyway.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Best of luck!
Sander Rossel wrote: with Azure they're modern and future proof At least until Microsoft decides it is not profitable and closes it...
Or they discover that centralized computing isn't that good (they already did it when switched from Mainframe to PC)...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: At least until Microsoft decides it is not profitable and closes it... With that logic we'd never be using anything new and we still be writing 0's and 1's, or be stuck in the stone age because this newfangled wheel thing will never last
Anyway, Azure and the cloud have been around for a while now and since so many companies are using it, it solves real problems, and it's Microsoft's biggest cash cow I doubt it's going anywhere soon.
And if it does that means more work for me
Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Or they discover that centralized computing isn't that good (they already did it when switched from Mainframe to PC)... The cloud is anything but centralized.
I can put some resources in West Europe, another in America and yet another in Asia.
Or have one resource in multiple regions for disaster failover, etc.
And there's also nothing stopping me from using Azure and AWS, except that I don't know AWS.
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Congratulations.
BTW, I retired, but after 3 weeks, my wife chased me out off the couch. I'm surprised she put up with me that long, a new record. I figure, that if GVod waNTED ME TO WORK HE'D FIND ME A JOB.
oTHERWISEOTHERWISE...
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Big problems need big solutions: Wizard of Id[^]
Spritz, by the way, is one of my favorite words. Why don't you guys adopt that one?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: Why don't you guys adopt that one?
I would but there's adoption papers, shots, spay or neutering and the whole thing when you bring them home will they play nice with the other critters.
Give me coffee to change the things I can and wine to accept the things I cannot!
JaxCoder.com
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CodeWraith wrote: Spritz, by the way, is one of my favorite words.
You would LOVE Venice
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I prefer to do the spritzing, not so much to get spritzed.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Flawed policeman brings in female and removes shirt! (9)
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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DEFECTIVE
Policeman (detective)
removes shirt (no T)
and brings in female (F)
== Flawed
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You are up tomorrow!
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Defective ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Gets a , even if you were just beaten to it!
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Ta, and Tim did provide an explanation
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Extinct bird re-evolves[^]
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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