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They can either deal with it or lose a customer. Windows isn't stable enough to run outside a VM.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Do you have a reference to that?
I can't see anything in the VS2019 licensing guide that prohibits it being run on VMs in general. The guide can be seen here: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Visual-Studio-Licensing-Whitepaper-Mar-2020.pdf[^]
The only VM limitation for VS2019 I can find is this (which I find rather odd):
Quote: Visual Studio subscriber software may no longer be run on dedicated hosted cloud services offered by the following public
cloud providers as of October 1, 2019.
Alibaba, Amazon (including VMware Cloud on AWS), and Google
This change won't impact the use of existing software versions under licenses purchased before October 1, 2019, but will
impact licenses purchased on or after October 1, 2019. Use on Azure (multi-tenant or dedicated hosts) continues to be
permitted during the term of a Visual Studio subscription.
For more information please refer to the following licensing news article: https://www.microsoft.com/enus/licensing/news/updated-licensing-rights-for-dedicated-cloud
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No reference, I read it "en passant" on Friday while downloading VS. Can't point to it... it was in the licensing section of VS site on MS though.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Thanks for the warning, I'm always cautious with updates but I will warn my colleagues who are a bit "trigger happy"
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Not seeing what you see but I have been getting those "something went wrong, save that ugly mess you are creating and restart Visual Studio"
Add a feature, fix a bug and add 3 new ones.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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I got it sometimes, but now I get it consistently.
At least it's consistent now, so maybe this is the actual intended behavior
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I have had pretty good luck with VS updates in the past but this is the worst one I can remember. Every time I paste text it "formats" it and I can't find where to disable that. It just started doing that after the update and it really annoys me. Another thing - every time I click "find in files" it takes five minutes or so. I have no idea why and this is very annoying also.
Curiously, I installed VS19 on two other machines and neither have these problems. They happen only on the one that was updated. I certainly hope a subsequent update repairs this nonsense.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Rick York wrote: Every time I paste text it "formats" it and I can't find where to disable that It does that for me too, always has.
Can you do ctrl + z and restore the original formatting?
Always worked for me.
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Yes, that's what I have been doing but I don't have to do that on my other two machines. THAT is the really annoying thing.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Oh, ckuf it, I installed it yesterday. Perfect... You using C++ or .NET only?
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Just .NET and mostly C#.
It seems not everyone has these issues though, so you may be in luck.
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20GB? No thanks...
Besides, I've developed in VM's before and it's really annoying that I have to switch between my desktop/VM or VM/other VM every time I need some other tool
It would take about a day every two months just to re-install my environment
Also, I don't have an Enterprise license
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Sander Rossel wrote: 20GB? No thanks... It actually is pretty light depending on what it is inside.
My own image without Visual Studio and other stuff is already over 15 Gb.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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Yeah, but would you want to download that every two months (and lose pretty much everything except Visual Studio)?
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Sander Rossel wrote: but would you want to download that every two months (and lose pretty much everything except Visual Studio)? Looking at the rate how they are screwing things up lately... I think that would be an improvement. At least you don't have to repair things
Anyways... I continue saying than an image of the system partition is one of the best ways to go
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Yeah, VS crashed on me yesterday. Not the freeze, crash, error reporting dialog crash, but the Total Existence Failure crash. Was typing and it just...disappeared. I can't remember seeing that for years and years.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I still get that from time to time.
Not a whole lot, but maybe once or twice a year.
Not sure if that's (only) in Visual Studio though, but I think so because that's where I spend most of my time.
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I found a new one today. Copy some resources from one DLL to another DLL. Works for 3 or 4 resources at a time. Try 10 or so and VS just vanishes.
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I had no issues. I waited around 48 hours after 16.8.0 was released. Now on 16.8.2.
I only once had to reinstall my PC in the last 17 years because of Visual Studio (stopped working). Well, because of me, I uninstall something what messed up Visual Studio.
And that didn't bother me too much as I like to reinstall my PC every couple of years anyway..
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I was doing a tiny clean up and when I went to C:\Users\My_User\AppData\Local\Temp there were over 4000 folders (mostly from VisualStudio) getting over 14 Gb space...
Just a CTRL+A and then Supr just deleted 99% of the folders.
At work I have 2019 and 2017 parallel and has not seen that behaviour yet. (Not sure if there is an auto delete mechanism in that folder though, my C:\Temp there is auto deleted when logging out)
Does VS does the same on your systems? 14 GB in temp files without having updated recently... I find a bit too much.
M.D.V.
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Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nope. I have only 1500 files in the Temp (most of them seems to be from VS), but those sum in less then a half GB...
I have 2019/2017/2010/2008 side-by-side (however it is very rare that I use anything else but 2019)...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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very interesting. I will have check my personal and work machines.
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Way too many programs litter the temp folder. I have an old script that I wrote that deletes anything older than a month as well as all empty folders under temp.
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I usually don't care because I restore from a clean image once or twice a year.
But this time it was a surprise
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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