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I'm sure it will get resolved. I just wanted to do my own due diligence and exhaust every resource I could find, which includes putting my feelers out on CP.
So now I can sleep easier knowing I've done my part, and I don't have any more threads to pull.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Is Chef Habitat a fancy name for "kitchen?"
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I thought something similar when I saw the name. I like it. It's fun.
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My current Lenovo Preferred II USB keyboard is dying (currently my "Del" key sounds funny when I press it) and I've start looking for a replacement.
And I have discovered an entire world of craziness...
Are mechanical keyboards worth it?
If they are, is really that TOPRE thing the best thing in the world?
Are you using a full keyboard for your work or you are using a TKL + separate numpad or something different?
This seems to be the best thing you can buy[^], but it uses ANSI layout, which is a no go for me (ISO here), but... is that thing worth it?
And of course, having almost 15M of programmers and technology enthusiasts at hand... I thought I would ask this here...
Thank you all!
modified 30-Jan-21 8:47am.
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I personally like to have the Num-Pad on the side. And hate "non" standard keys like the "Fn" Key many laptops bring, and even more when they get placed where usually other thing is (like moving the CTRL to be the second on the left)
Beyond that... I usually don't care that much (yet)
At home I have an old Logitech "qwertz" (germany keyboard layout) with big Enter Key. (Symbols are a bit different than in the spanish layout but still 80-85% same)
At work I have a Fujitsu "qwertz" with the same distribution of keys, only that the keys have less volumen (they are a bit more flat as it would be a lappie)
The fujitsu doesn't require too much pression to hit, what makes it more confortable, but more easy to "double" letters when typing.
So far... everytime I have changed the keyboard I have needed one or two weeks adaptation time and then everything was fine. And up to now, I haven't tested any where I would say... "wow" I want one of those very badly.
I kind of miss a bit my old mechanical keyboard during college in spain. But not really because of "mechanical" tech side of it but for the nostalgical side of it... the many hours I used it, the what I was using it for and the different sound it did.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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Personally, I like simple. I've never had a problem with the keyboards with the rubber membranes instead of mechanical keys. If you're used to them, I'd say why bother switching to something more expensive? I know gamers like them, but gamers are an odd bunch anyway. Personally i think they should just have keyboards with only W/A/S/D and a trackball on them, but nobody listens to me.
KISS carries the day for me, in almost all things. More to the point - things should be as simple as they can be, and no simpler.
A keyboard should be simple, IMO.
The fanciest keyboard I have is LED lit because I sleep 4 hours a night so I often work in the dark and while I can touch type, it's nice to have some ambient light on my desk. I only have it though because it came with my PC.
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Gamer here. We pretty much use the entire left hand side of the keyboard and the spacebar. It's actually too much sometimes for my old reflexes to remember everything sometimes.
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I was just teasing.
I'm a fallout addict myself. otherwise i don't play much, but when i do i use a gamepad. keyboards are for typing, not greasing super mutants, IMO.
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Fair enough, lol. I rarely do any work on my home keyboard which is a Corsair mechanical without the 10 keypad. I would die without that on my work keyboard.
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I use a mechanical ten keyless keyboard (Cooler Master Quickfire) on all my home computers. Also, I don't think I've ever come across an instance when I used the 10 key pad at work (retired now). I vaguely remember having a game decades ago that used the keypad but that's about it.
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I learned 10 key when I was younger so it's old habit for me whenever I have to enter numbers.
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Yeah, old habits are hard to break. In Windows I still use WordStar control sequences when editing text. I remapped my keyboard to put the control key back to it's original position (where the capslock key is) and wrote an AutoHotkey script to use Wordstar control sequences in all the editors/IDEs/word processors that I use. Heh, nobody I know can use my editors unless they disable the script!
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Joan M wrote: Are mechanical keyboards worth it?
Yup. Corsair here. Is also a RGB-type keyboard, with led light dancing. And best of all, it is spill-proof
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Keyboards? How quaint.
Why don't you just hold up the mouse and talk into it?
Start simply with something like "Computer..."
(A Scottish accent will probably help with this!)
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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I have a code full keyboard, I've been using it for a long while now,
It is a good keyboard, heavy, stable, nice key lighting, nice keys feeling.
not cheap; but it's something that I use every day.
It has one issue, the usb plug is flimsy.
I'm thinking of buying one for home (to game), probably one without a numerical keypad (not useful for home use)
I'd rather be phishing!
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Full keyboard, as in, numeric keypad on the side. Can't stand the inverted T cursor keys, never use them.
I love my Logitech illuminated keyboard. Actually, I should say the 3 or so I have lying around the house.
Mechanical? Ew. I want a quiet keyboard. I want a keys with minimal travel and force.
Though some sort of sci-fi sound would cool, like they have on sci-fi shows, but I've never found a decent sound effect that I can tie into a key press.
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I can only tolerate ones with palm rests ... which have been MS keyboards.
A wifi one is handy for using with Hololense and the like.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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I always buy reasonably cheap Logitech keyboards.
But if you want the creme de la creme, you need to check out Optimus Maximus keyboard[^].
Or just anything using Cherry switches.
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Intriguing, but if I have to submit a budget for a keyboard design, then I think I will look at something a little more reasonably priced. Very intriguing though, especially with the configurable buttons on the left with customized icons.
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But "Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard" unfortunately doesn't come with backlighting
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I use a Unicomp Ultra Classic and love it. It is not a quiet unit but I like the old school clickity-clack for some reason.
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If it was good enough for IBM when they were a hardware company...
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I have three of the Das Keyboard 4 Pros:
Das
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fwiw, I went through a bit of the "upgrade to mechanical" fun not to long ago, and here's my 2c from it:
- there are cheaper keys, which I found to have inferior feel, and they failed after a short period of time. Get something with Cherry MX keys. Though I did have a go with Logitech G keys and they were quite good, just that the keyboard that was shipped to me didn't have exactly the layout that was advertised, so I sent it back.
- you need to figure out what kind of feedback you like - personally, I don't like the maddening click of blue keys, or even brown keys, so I have Cherry Reds. You can also quieten a lot of the bottoming out sound by performing the "o-ring mod" (a quick web search should enlighten), and if you're going to do this, cheap-o silicon o-rings of the correct size are good enough: no need to pay for "keyboard-specific" o-rings. Get them on Amazon: Amazon.com: Dreamtop 250pcs Clear Rubber O-Ring Rubber Keyboard Dampeners with Plastic Storage for Mechanical Keyboard Cherry MX Key Switch: Computers & Accessories
- the keyboard vendor seemed to matter less, once you have selected for good keys, since good keys drives up the price anyway: I have a Corsair k72 and a CoolerMaster mk750. I actually prefer the Corsair a little more because it has a scrollable volume control and integrated palm rest (vs the magnetic one on the Cooler Master), but if you're into fancy lighting, the Cooler Master does full RGB where the Corsair I have came in 25% cheaper and only does red (which suits me since I use red at night and I'm too lazy to change colors anyway)
ymmv, and it's a good idea, if possible (considering the price) to try out physical keyboards if you can, ie find some friends who have them and feel what it's like. A lot of these are built for the long run, which is another reason I moved to mechanical after one of my membrane boards died (it had a good run, really), so, considering the price and longevity, it's nice to find what you want first time (:
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