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I pass on all technology like this -- I've had a car fight me for control, and that's not acceptable. I was in a construction area with numerous old lines where *I* had had to figure out where the lane was supposed to be. The car had even less clue.
I tried lane departure warning and had the vehicle shake the wheel and nudge me right when I was trying to pass another car on the left. That is never getting turned on again.
This vehicle has a brake warning (can't be turned off) that beeps and flashes a message on the dash, in situations where I do not need to be distracted. It also has false positives where it shakes the steering wheel, mostly on a curve but sometimes on a straight road.
If the technology worked better with no false positives, I'd be willing to try it. Traveling at 60 MPH and having the car make a mistake is bad, as is fighting for control with a computer.
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Get used to it - it's increasingly being fitted by law and I don't expect the amount of "driver takeovers" to reduce at all. In the Europe, all new vehicles must be fitted with speed limiters and if you disable or remove it you insurance company will probably not pay out on any claim. For the moment, you can turn them off and override them by hitting the pedal, but that'll probably change soon.
You'll be driving "classic cars" if you want to have complete control over the vehicle soon! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Sadly, I'm sure you're correct!
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Douglas Adams Wonko the Sane was right.
FTFY 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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After reading your post it occurs to me I should probably make the effort to provide users of the API I am writing w/ extensive exception error messages rather than the terse few words I currently providing. Certainly more than "beep beep beep" though I rather like that.  Perhaps bee_beep_beep can be the name of the exception class.
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Beep - this is too funny. I own a 2018 RAV4. When I turn off the engine after parking, i of course am going into the store. Opening the door, I get a beep and a message "Door Open." Well duh. What I wish Toyota would do is allow me to auto up and down ALL windows, not just the driver's.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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A while ago I pressed some combination of buttons on my key and all the windows of the car went down. I have no idea what buttons were pressed and it hasn't happened since.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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our Honda remote lets you roll down all of the windows from the remote via
1. unlock
2. unlock
3. unlock and hold
I can’t wait for the patent to expire so all manufacturers can reuse this method
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That explains it. Apparently I pressed that combination randomly and I didn't know it. Thanks!
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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Not a beep, but a warning light: The dashboard of my car has a warning light to remind me that we are in the months from October to April, so the road may be slippery. (The specs says that it is lit when the outdoor temperature is below 4 C - that is another way to say October to April.)
small beep: My baking oven beeps for everything. I like that it tells me that the preset temperature has been reached, but after use, it beeps to inform me when it has completely cooled down and isn't even lukewarm any more. Of course this is essential information, I know that. Yet this (and all the other beeps it produces) bugged me so much much that I set the beep volume to minimum, so now I cannot hear the beep telling me that it has reached the preset temperature. You can't win them all!
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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trønderen wrote: the road may be slippery
Yeah, the 4Runner will indicate "ICE" at very low temperatures, as if I didn't already know. I only saw it light up when I was up in Flagstaff a few winters ago. It never lights up here in freaking Phoenix. (I'm from Massachusetts; I know cold and snow and how to drive in the stuff.)
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I have a Honda 2019 Accord. Its great car. And I bought it off lease for a mere $12,500.00. The price was so low because it doesn't have all the tech-junk that is common with cars today.
However, it does have an internal diagnostic system that goes nuts every now and then.
While driving on a highway, the diagnostic system will sometimes pop up messages telling me that my brake-system has failed,along with a host of other issues. However, nothing is wrong. The brakes still work fine and so does everything else.
This all started happening after the last software-recall from Honda.
Never had an issue with the older software...
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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Hey - at least they tried! Not just any group of engineers can break the management barrier! 
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Is the battery in the trunk? We had once a dead battery in a grocery store parking lot, and one of the staff was so kind as to come out to give us a boost. When he backed his car up to ours, I was thinking WTF?! I don't recall what kind of car he had, but its battery was in the trunk, so I learned something new that day!
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Actually, no it's in front where it is supposed to be.
This wanders off my original chuckle, but the car comes with Roadside Assist. I was pleasantly impressed with the speed at which they got out there. Turns out, one of the cells of the battery had died (less than 1000 miles and 3 months old). So, dealer replaced the battery and made a specific notation that what killed it was the dash cam that was plugged in. I call bull chips on that, but that's another story.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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A bunch of people on YT were posting videos to tell me that batteries
were going flat because their dealers had hidden GPS trackers on their new cars so the cars could be found and repossessed.
This seemed a bit paranoid, but there were lots of viewer comments with similar stories. Even from people who had paid cash for the cars.
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I saw something like that for other cars... I'll have to look into this.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Most modern vehicles are online all the time. My F150 does software updates about every two weeks. It logs and reports locations, speeds, engine performance, etc.
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Greg Utas wrote: its battery was in the trunk
My '06 Dodge Charger's battery is in the trunk. I believe today's are still there.
I suppose one of the main benefits is that even today, it remains as clean and corrosion-free as the day I bought it.
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Greg Utas wrote: its battery was in the trunk
My (soon-to-be-ex) wife has a Dodge Challenger, where the battery is in the trunk. Dodge made the masterful design decision to make the trunk latch a solenoid. Dead battery, you can't open the trunk from outside the car. You have to open the door using the emergency key in the fob, climb into the back seat, let the rear seat backs down, roll onto your back, slide to the rear of the trunk, and pull the internal trunk release cable.
Yeah, I curse the morons that designed the ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ing thing. Good news is it's being sold as part of the divorce settlement and I won't have to deal with the er any more.
Software Zen: delete this;
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BMW likes to put the battery to the trunk for better handling of the car (50-50% weight on axles).
Sometimes one battery is not enough for even an ICE only car.
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BMWs.... I call them *icks with wheels. I once saw a BMW driver use his signal. Scared the hell out of me.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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User interfaces in cars are the worst. My dad worked for over 40 years as a mechanic - I keep telling him computers aren't as complicated as today's car consoles.
This stuff needs to be standardized.
But, a module placed at the back of a car, that makes an audible beep, is a different type of bad interface decision altogether.
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Be aware an alternator can destroy a battery - this happened to me 3 months after replacing the battery (2016 CX5) total cost $1200 AUD.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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charlieg wrote: For those of us who write software that communicates with people, please don't do this crap.
Was the beep in morse code at least?
Jeremy Falcon
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