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I recently vowed I'd never purchase an M5 product again after more than $100 USD worth of kit just up and died on me. Not one unit. 3 of them.
Enter Makerfabs. Good build quality. Nice kits. Little bit on the expensive side but see build quality.
They've been my go to lately. However, recently Arduino got updated, and so did PlatformIO, and it broke every single RGB interface makerfabs board because of an interconnected series of issues.
Arduino on the ESP32 runs along side of and sort of on top of the ESP-IDF. The ESP-IDF is necessary to control RGB interface screens. Since Arduino was updated, what was also updated was a major version change of the ESP-IDF it runs along side, breaking code.
Authors that have developed graphics libraries that can interface with these screens have yet to update their libraries to support the latest bits.
As such, you need reference an old version of Arduino to get it to work.
Well, one of the old permalinks to that older arduino package dried up and is no longer available.
So you can't even build for these devices anymore.
After some digging and some help from a friend we finally found a workaround. I'm so relieved.
I have a $50 piece of kit from them in the mail to me right now (i ordered it before i found out about the above)
I just want some hobby kits, not anxiety.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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So I am looking for a mechanical keyboard that is quiet enough for an office setting. The one I have now is way too loud, even though it was advertised as being quiet. 
Anyone have any recommendations for one that is really quiet?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Wahdyasay? I can't hear you over my own keyboard. I get complaints about it from down the block.
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Yeah, my keyboard caused someone to emerge from his office to see what was making all that racket.
The difficult we do right away...
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My Das 5QS isn't particularly loud. It's mechanical though, so there's that. It's certainly noisier than the more common membrane keyboards.
Can you upgrade or replace your coworkers with a more noise tolerant variety?
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Look for linear switches
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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honey the codewitch wrote: Can you upgrade or replace your coworkers with a more noise tolerant variety?
 Wish I could!
The difficult we do right away...
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Most of the newer ones have options to get a quieter switch type. Back in the day you only had one, but now you have several different switch types.
The one I use is a wired Logitech G513. It's technically a gaming keyboard but doesn't have all that gaming nonsense on it that some gaming keyboards do. It's sturdy. And it uses brown switches, which don't really click loud. I never had any complaints about switch noise in meetings either. Maybe they were being nice though. But, no complaints so far.
Site Note: They say some of the really super duper keyboards that are wireless don't have any lag, but I still go wired because from a lag standpoint nothing beats it. I would suspect that most professionals are fast typers still go with a wire.
Oh, I should say, I work from home. So when I'm typing in meetings it's usually over Zoom, Teams, etc. It may be too loud for an office, but out of the switch types, the brown ones are quieter at least when compared to some.
Jeremy Falcon
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Thanks for the comments, Jeremy. Do you game? It's the only reason I could imagine for being concerned about latency.
The difficult we do right away...
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote: Do you game? It's the only reason I could imagine for being concerned about latency.
Sometimes, but it's usually on the Switch or PS5. Unless I'm sick I generally only use my computers for coding and/or work.
For me, just when typing in a text editor I could feel the latency with your typical wireless keyboard. Was enough to drive me crazy.
Jeremy Falcon
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I am a glorified hunt and peck typer. Even the slowest keyboard reacts faster than I can type.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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I use a Corsair. It is lit up which I didn't care for originally but I have gotten use to it.
Not sure I would like it if it was too quiet. But doesn't seem loud to me. I think I use the noise at the subconscious level to affirm my typing.
But maybe if your keyboard is too loud then they will give you an office.
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I ![Heart | [heart]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/love.gif) my Logitech K120[^]. It's a reliable, no-nonsense, quiet soft travel mechanical keyboard. Before that I used a Dell QuietKey SK-8000[^] for over a decade. It was amazingly reliable but died after I spilled an entire cup of coffee on it. 
/ravi
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I think all mechanical KBs are louder than the equivalent, but ... they are robust and feel really good to type on.
My DAS 4 doesn't seem too loud to me (now I'm used to it) but it does use the Cherry Blue which are designed to be "clicky" - they do a Cherry brown version which is quieter.
The model numbers are DASK4MKPROCLI-UK for the Blue, and DASK4MKPROSIL-UK for the Brown.
Both are rated for 50M keystrokes per switch, which is at least a weeks typing for the Codewitch! 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Honestly - I'm a bit of a keyboard nut. I'm sure I could recommend a few different ones, but it depends on what you are after, and if you are a keyboard snob or not (I am).
Firstly - the sounds of your keyboard are going to be much quieter if you're wearing headphones and listening to music of your choice.
If you want/need a mechanical keyboard, the quietest switches are "linear" ones. Usually called Red (or Cherry Red) - there are now so many variants in all sorts of colors. Next up the scale but also fairly quiet are brown switches, usually called "tactile". If you like to feel feedback when you press a key, then tactile is probably the go. The noisiest switches are "clicky" usually blue. There are other variations in different color, green, black, clear etc - which all vary the various performance of the switch - how hard it is to press, how far it needs to be pressed to actuate etc.
If you don't care about the typing experience, then most low profile membrane or chicklet key keyboards will be fine. (Personally hate them - find them like typing into a wet sponge, but YMMV).
If you want a super responsive mechanical keyboard, which is quite quiet, has low actuation distance - then I'd recommend a Logitech keyboard with Romer-G switches. Compared to other tactile mechanical keyboards, they take a little getting used to but they are pretty good. Logitech make a few different keyboards with these switches, with and without backlighting, single color or RGB, and wired or wireless.
Or you can get a cheap one from Amazon/Temu with red or brown switches, but YMMV. Cheaper is not always better, but there are some good ones for around $50 AUD. ($30 US appx).
Hope that helps.
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I would add to Paul Mauriks reply that the case makes a big difference.
My personal home keyboard is a Keychron Q3[^] that I bought bare bones and then bought the switches and keycaps (EN UK) that I wanted. Heavy aluminium frame. It's great, couldn't be happier. It's an 80% layout that means my right hand isn't forced so far to the right and is much more comfortable to use than a full size. Nice typing feel without much noise. It doesn't have a numpad but I don't need that for home use.
At the same time I bought a Keychron K4[^] that I have fitted with French keycaps (I work in French). It's a good chassis but it's plastic and the sound difference is huge without improving the quality of the typing feel. It's a 96% layout so it has a numpad but everything is a compressed into a smaller space (takes a little bit of getting used to) which means I have all the keys of a full size keyboard without my right hand being forced way over to the right of my desk.
Mike
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