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I've had zero problems with Logitech mice using their dongles. But Logitech mice using Bluetooth I avoid like the plague.
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That's good to know about the bluetooth. You've had better luck with logitech wireless stuff than I have, from the sound of it.
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I very rarely felt the need of a wireless mouse / keyboard, and very often swore loudly against them.
If I will ever buy some again I will go with bluetooth, at least they have the advantage of not binding a precious USB port on my laptop - I do embedded work and I rarely use less than 3 ports, saving 2 would help me avoid the use of a finicky hub (some devices also suck with unpowered hubs, yes I'm talking about you Vector VN1611).
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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My SO has the problem that her cursor will disappear for some time and then reappear a few seconds, to many seconds later. She's asked me diagnose it but I have no idea. Tried new batteries, new mouse and nothing has helped. Her son's building her a new computer so told her to live with it for now.
Don't know what else to try?
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I'm sure I had that on my main desktop machine shortly after I had built it. I'm pretty sure it was driver related, and not the mouse driver. I can't remember if it disappeared after a chipset update or a gpu update.
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She had a crappy computer that was real dirty so I used canned air and cleaned it up. After that it wouldn't boot so she had a really old crappy machine that we got up and running so she would have something. So I'm not real worried about the mouse problem because the computer she's got now isn't worth getting stressed over.
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Can't read the linked item - it is asking for me to allow it to see my Location. Why?
I have never allowed anything to see my location. My PC is a desktop and does not have any location detection on it.
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"Terminated, might newspaperman shortly have taken complete control?" (11)
[Previous and this is not my creation.]
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Terminated OVER
might POWER
newspaperman shortly ED
have taken complete control?
OVERPOWERED
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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What else is there to add?
Honestly, how adept is the LLVM stuff at creating Windows PE binaries? Because I don't even want to deal with anything other than clang or gcc anymore.
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Well, Visual C++ is not a compiler, it's an IDE. If you want to use the compiler standalone it is quite easy, I do it most days in a command prompt window using VSCode.
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Visual studio is an IDE
MSVC is a compiler.
MSVC Compiler Options | Microsoft Docs[^]
If there's a way to launch it in "IDE mode" I'm not aware of it, and I worked on Microsoft's IDE team.
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To be fair it's not that much of an exaggeration to say that half of Microsoft's developer products have start with the word 'Visual'. If they'd developed Skype internally they'd probably have called it Visual Phone Calls.
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Yeah, it's frustrating.
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Quote: cl.exe is a tool that controls the Microsoft C++ (MSVC) C and C++ compilers And cl is the command I use for compiling in VSCode; nothing visual about it (except when my simple mistakes get spat out. ).
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Notice how it says *it controls* the Microsoft C++ (MSVC) C and C++ compilers.
cl.exe is a command line control tool. It is not the compiler.
Microsoft names everything development oriented with Visual, as Dar said. It doesn't mean it's literally visual. I blame microsoft's marketers.
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modified 17-Mar-21 9:15am.
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honey the codewitch wrote: cl.exe is a command line control tool. It is not the compiler.
c:\program files (x86)\microsoft visual studio 14.0\vc\bin>cl.exe
Microsoft (R) C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 19.00.24210 for x86
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
usage: cl [ option... ] filename... [ /link linkoption... ]
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Of course the thing that controls the other thing will dump output from the other thing when you run it. I refer you again to the documentation I linked to, which clearly states that the cl.exe is a utility that controls MSVC.
Even if it's currently embedded in cl.exe the concept is distinct, meaning microsoft may expose the *MSVC* compiler as a service at some point (if they haven't already, i haven't kept up with their latest nonsense)
cl.exe is a tool that controls the Microsoft C++ (MSVC) C and C++ compilers and linker. cl.exe can be run only on operating systems that support Microsoft Visual Studio for Windows.
Read it carefully, and I think you'll understand why I call the compiler Microsoft Visual C++ and not "cl.exe"
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modified 17-Mar-21 10:17am.
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This can be investigated with something like Project Explorer, by compiling some crazy "template template template parameters" stuff, which may give insane compilation time. Just reading the documentation, I can only guess that cl.exe is compiler, which runs the linker if necessary:
CL automatically invokes the linker after compiling unless the /c option is used.
From our point of view, this is not important, unless we want to develop some new makefile system. Not in my schedule for this week, anyway...
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Fair enough, but based on the documentation produced by microsoft, and all of its related materials they do indeed call their compiler MSVC.
Therefore, I don't think it's exactly accurate to correct someone for referring to it as Microsoft Visual C++.
MSVC isn't an IDE. Visual Studio is an IDE, so there isn't really cross-confusion here save for the word "Visual" which is a misnomer when it comes to MSVC, but has *always been the same misnomer* ever since they introduced it, regardless of IDE. It's just what they call it.
Now, we may have different ideas about what it's "really" called. I tend to lean toward what the people that created it call it in their actual documentation and other materials.
You may call it what the command line executable is named.
I honestly don't care. I just don't think what I called it bears correcting, since it's accurate. It ultimately comes down to which name you think is more important (the cli name, or MS's given name), and I think reasonable people can disagree about that while both being correct in what they call it.
Now, if you take issue with that, so be it. I'm willing to die on that hill.
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honey the codewitch wrote: cl.exe is a command line control tool. It is not the compiler.
gcc is no different - and never has been. When you run gcc with the --verbose flag, it shows that compiling a C file to an executable runs the following:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/cc1 -quiet -v -imultiarch x86_64-linux-gnu a.c -quiet -dumpbase a.c -mtune=generic -march=x86-64 -auxbase a -version -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Wformat-security -o /tmp/ccJEEoFg.s
This compiles the C to x86_64 assembly.
as -v --64 -o /tmp/ccAlIhSN.o /tmp/ccJEEoFg.s
Produces object code from assembly.
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/collect2 -plugin /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/liblto_plugin.so -plugin-opt=/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/lto-wrapper -plugin-opt=-fresolution=/tmp/ccaY47gl.res -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc_s -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lc -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc_s --build-id --eh-frame-hdr -m elf_x86_64 --hash-style=gnu --as-needed -dynamic-linker /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 -pie -z now -z relro -o a /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/Scrt1.o /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/crti.o /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/crtbeginS.o -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8 -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/../../../../lib -L/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -L/lib/../lib -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -L/usr/lib/../lib -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/../../.. /tmp/ccAlIhSN.o -lgcc --push-state --as-needed -lgcc_s --pop-state -lc -lgcc --push-state --as-needed -lgcc_s --pop-state /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/crtendS.o /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/8/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/crtn.o
collect2 is what does the linking.
cl.exe is much the same (although I think the compilation functionality is in DLLs, not separate EXEs - Windows doesn't have fast process creation with fork /exec , after all).
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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sure, but the people who made the compiler call it GCC
The people that made MSVC call it MSVC
regardless of what the command lines are or how they are structured. The only reason this tangent happened is because someone argued that because cl.exe is called cl.exe that has to do with what the compiler is named. I'd argue it doesn't.
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