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I cut my finger "to the bone" with a scalpel while trimming some parts on an Airfix kit back when I was about 13. It bled a bit so I washed it with diluted Dettol, squeezed the cut shut and wrapped a band-aid tightly over it. No stitches, no ambulance, minimal delay to my important model-making task! I mentioned it to my mother a few hours later, she looked at it, put a fresh plaster on it and that was it - I still have the scar.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I did the same thing with a razor blade when I was 8 - I was testing the sharpness (I was EIGHT, OK?) - this was first thing in the morning before my parents were awake.
I tied a handkerchief around it and waited until Mum woke. Then showed it to her, blood dripping into my other hand cupped below. Shetold me off for using a razor blade (which I wasn't meant to do without Dad there), washed it under the cold tap, slapped on a plaster and that was that.
I, too, still have the scar.
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When I was 16 or so I was at a friend's house, with another of my mates, in his bedroom, just discussing crap as we did when nothing better to do. He picked up a large pair of scissors (that he had stolen from school IIRC) and as he snapped them shut I turned round and the index finger of my right hand passed between the blades, they sliced deeply into both sides of my finger.
After racing to the bathroom to reduce what I was bleeding onto, wrapping the finger in something absorbant, his mother drove us to the hospital.
As we were driving there she uttered the now legendary line "It's a good job you didn't have your willy out".
I have no idea what sort of things she thought we got up to when in each others bedrooms.
I, too, still have both scars.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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An upcoming project requires SSL on our webserver, so I have been checking on certificates from different sources. We already use Thawte for code signing and it would be nice to manage all the certificates together plus I would think that the screening/verification process could be skipped when adding a service.
Anyway, so I go check at Thawte first...looks like the one I need is $149/yr.
Checking around, I found ssls.com[^] and notice that the same certificate there is only $29/yr.
Is there anything I should be aware of when going through a reseller?..I mean, that's quite a difference.
Anybody used them? (ssls.com)
Does CP sell ssl certs? I thought they did, but searching the site turns up nothing today.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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My colleague has recently been working with SSL certificates and I believe that the cheaper certificates require something akin to an intermediate certificate(I believe this is checked and certified by an intermediary SSL server before the full certificate is verified).
I may be wrong on this however my colleague explained that it was a rather complicated affair and that the cheaper certificates involved more complexity.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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I got a free cert from startssl.
Can't beat free.
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Free is rarely worth the price. Generally better to pay for quality.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Free is rarely worth the price. True, that. Do you know if the free ones even use encryption to transfer data? Considering the messages I've seen on some HTTPS sites, some people don't even know how to use the encryption certificate to encrypt the page. (I admit it, I don't know how to do that, because I haven't worked with SSIS licensing services.)
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I have no idea. I don't touch the stuff.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
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Wow! That is cheap! I'm still wondering what the catch is with free and cheap certificates...
Anyhow, thanks to all who offered advice! Now enjoy what's left of your weekend!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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There is a reason not to use your self-generated SSL?
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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As long as you don't need anyone to trust your certificate, e.g. if you hold both ends of all communication where the certificate will be used, and there is no way whatsoever that anyone can inject traffic on that communication line, masquerading himself with another self-signed certificate pretending to be you, then self-signing is perfectly safe.
But then you probably have limited need of SSL at all.
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SSL have two purposes:
1. Add a level of cryptography to the communication between client and server. For that a self signed certificate more than enough..
2. Prove to client (and sometimes the other way around) that the server is who he claims to be. For that you have to choose a 3rd party - trusted by the client - and get certificate from him...
I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is. (V)
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Do you need the certificate just for your own needs and to get the technology working? Use a self signed certificate.
If the purpose that your customers should be protected from man in the middle attacks, use a reputable certificate that actually check who you are.
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Could someone list of couple of places for ones that are reputable? I was looking at Namecheap.com the other day, still trying to figure out one for a decent price, but that I wouldn't have any complications with at the same time.
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If you use Windows tools, and want an easy life, don't get one that is 'extra validation' from Entrust....
few of the GUI tools support it, leaving you at the command line... while not 'hard', it's not simple or nice!
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We use Entrust and so do some of our banking partners. Their cloud based management tool allows us to manage things once we've order the first time around. We used VeriSign but found that Entrust was just as good and was a little cheaper.
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I have used GoDaddy's SSL. They are fairly cheap and they have some good tutorials.
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Thanks, Google.
WTF is "Eastern Time"? Time since the birth of Mao? Something to do with Scheherazade? Mongolian sheep-dung-decay time?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Is this only sarcasm or is there an actual question? (I assume its in the USA[^] time zones it reffers to)
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Yeah, I see that -- "All Times ET" -- on FOX's MLB schedules as well. Not much help when trying to watch the local game.
You'll never get very far if all you do is follow instructions.
modified 14-Jun-14 14:32pm.
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I used to work for a company that broadcast television to the whole of Europe, Africa and the middle East. Don't talk to me about time zones!!! They were the bane of my life. Because of stupid daylight saving time we were obliged to modify the start of day times for almost every single channel (nearly 100 at that time). Thank goodness for SQL. Made my life so much easier.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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Well, what do you think they should use, UTC? Do you honestly believe that anyone except programmers and those living outside of the US even know what UTC is? People in the US probably think UTC is a form of contraceptive.
Marc
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I hate to mention this but I worked on a project where I could never get our American programmers and analysts to fully understand time zones, including UTC (where's that).
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"It's British for GMT"
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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