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...I'm starting to hate MSDN.
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL.
I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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Why ?
In code we trust !
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Perfect example of a rhetorical question!
Whether I think I can, or think I can't, I am always bloody right!
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Just...see for yourself.
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL.
I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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what!!.., so all along you have been happy with MSDN?
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No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just don't use MSDN before that's why I neither like nor hate it. But now... everything changed.
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL.
I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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Ahhhh... The old "familiarity breeds contempt" gambit - I like it...
...and welcome to the collective.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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You know, before reading other poster's answers I was pretty sure I was very happy with MSDN!
But now, come to think of it, I hardly ever use it, in fact!
Maybe it's why I am so happy about it!
That said I do love the OFF line help in VS. The one you see in the help viewer app!
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And that's where I was wrong! I never bother to use that before. But now, grrrrr! I don't want to see MSDN again! Ever!
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL.
I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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When you stop and think about how much of it you actually use, you realize they've convinced you to pay more than what you would have if you'd just bought the retail version of the products.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
modified 3-Jul-14 9:19am.
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I tried to fill in the missing bits (typos) but to no avail!
I guess it has something to do with corporation brain washing us for fun and profit? Particularly profits?!
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It was better when it came on a single CD-ROM.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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It came on a single CD(?!), I have a version (6 I think...) that's on two, one of the first NET versions that's on four!
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Think it was one, then two, then four.
This was in 1993, mind.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Still doing my A-Levels!
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V6 was on 2, I have them.
I have them here beside me in the cobwebbed box of doom!
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Ahh, yes the cobbweb box of doom, home of the Windows 95 boot floppy and CGA graphics card!! (also an IDE hard drives...)
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starting?
As I grow older I've found that pleasing everyone is impossible but pissing everyone off is a piece of cake.
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Sounds like somebody got stood up recently.
Jeremy Falcon
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Well, the reason they see more UFOs in Alaska is because electricity use is pretty sparse, so anything resembling an electric light is automatically interpreted as other-worldly... or magic.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Those Alaskan!
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I've gone through my story here a couple times. I graduated with a Bachelors in Computer Information Systems close to 3 years ago. Unfortunately, I did no internships or networking while in college. In terms of finding work, it's been rough. I had a junior programmer job at a printing company 7 months out of college, but got laid off 10 months ago. Since then, I've been looking for work and learning languages. I have only 2 projects on Github, but I'm looking to put more up later. I've had a few interviews, but nothing panned out.
My main issue is that I don't have enough experience. Though I'm aiming for programming positions, I only got in a year and a half at my previous job. That was in an obscure language called FoxPro. Also, my degree was CIS. I didn't appreciate the difference between CS/CIS in college. I knew fairly early I wanted to program, but after transferring from Community College, a CS degree would have taken way longer and cost way more at that point. Now that I'm trying to learn all this extra stuff on my own, I feel I should have taken that hit and switched majors. Now I don't have the cash to go back (and don't want to take on more loans).*
The second issue is that I live in Flint, Michigan. Aside from topping "worst crime in Michigan" lists every year, there's not a lot here in terms of programming work that I haven't already applied to. Heck, I've been applying to places 3-10 cities over since the start of my hunt, and not getting many bites. Due to meager savings post-layoff and my closeness to my relatives, I didn't want to move at first. Now I recognize I have to at some point. I was thinking of Lansing, because I see plenty of job postings coming from there and I've had relatives who lived there before and say it's nice. Any spot in MI where entry-level programmers are in demand will do though. I'll probably find some temp jobs to save up the money.
However, there's still the main issue. I don't have much work experience in programming. I also have a 10+ month gap on my resume. These things will still be true, even if I was able to move tomorrow. So, does it matter if I move? I think I can get temp work and save money, but the cost of moving will still be huge, and I don't want to take the gamble of moving if the move is ineffective. I'm going to save money either way if I can find "stepping-stone" work, as well as put up projects. But should I move as soon as I have enough money, or wait until I have an offer from a company? The offer doesn't have to include relocation; I'd move on my own dime if the salary was decent enough. I'm not moving out of Michigan anyway.
*Please note I don't mean to start any war between CIS and CS majors here. I just feel I should have taken the CS degree.
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If you have the means to support yourself (or relatives you can stay with until you get on your feet), then moving to where there are more job opportunities makes a lot of sense.
Don't fret about the 10 month gap on your resume... Apply for junior/entry level positions and explain the 10 month gap. In the meantime, I hope you've been doing *something* with your time? Volunteer work? Anything? Mention that to them when talking about your 10 month gap.
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I've only been learning new things. I put up a couple projects on Github, which is already on my resume. I admittedly haven't tried as hard as I perhaps should have to find volunteer work. I called around to a couple nonprofits and got in contact with professors at my school to see if they knew of anyone who had any volunteer work in the programming field. There's been nothing though.
How do you suggest I look?
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