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Maybe; but why the Elephant is MS crapping all over separation of concerns by requiring part of the VSI installer setup to be put in the application project instead of in the VSI one. If I used installshield or anything sane instead, I'd be using their automation; not the VSI version that would be blighting my app project...
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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We use InstallSh*tShield.
It works OK for for use, but I really do not like it.
One one side it works nicely for simple small projects, but once you want something "more", all hell break loose.
I'd rather be phishing!
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We are using the standard MSI installer / setup project with Visual Studio 2010. I recently found out that there is an extension for VS2013 to bring back that standard msi installer.
We had some custom requirements that required tweaking of the msi:
- disabling self-repairing shortcuts (because we use our own auto-updater)
- extracting the msi, modifying the app.config files with the client's network info and re-compiling the msi (using msi2xml and xml2msi) so they can just download from their server and install
There is also NSIS that can be used as an installer.
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Did not see a post so I though I would start one.
Bob is quite festive today.
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It's already tomorrow to half of them, and probably the other half lying in some pub...
By the way, what is it in the right-hand of Bob?
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: By the way, what is it in the right-hand of Bob?
I'm going to guess at Vegemite.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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After looking it up I would be better with two glasses of beer...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I think it is a can of beer, however, Vegemite would have been my first guess.
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Corporal Agarn wrote: Bob is quite festive drinky today.
FTFY, btw happy Aussie day
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I installed the Zorin OS 3 or 4 years ago because that is what people said was closest to Windows. However, my biggest complaint is there are no executables.
For example, to update Java you have to download the file and then get into command lines to actually do the update. I also installed Android Developer Studio over the weekend and never finished because of all the command line this that and the other.
I remember a time when people were convinced Linux would take over Windows; however, until they can get this simple concept to work in Linux I don't see it ever happening.
I don't want to go back to the DOS days.
Is there a flavor of Linux that has executables so that updating software is easy?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Actually there are distributions that do the update/install just like Windows...Nice UI and all...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Such as?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Fedora, Ubuntu...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Fedora, Ubuntu Maybe I'll try Ubuntu. Zorin is supposedly the "same" as Ubuntu.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I do not know of Zorin, but Fedora and Ubuntu have the auto-update feature...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
Wasn't it an Adam Sandler movie?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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RyanDev wrote: Is there a flavor of Linux that has executables so that updating software is easy? Generally all desktop distributions provide an easy update mechanism that works without requiring any command line inputs.
You may try Ubuntu. There you will have a notification about updates and installing requires a few clicks.
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Jochen Arndt wrote: Generally all desktop distributions provide an easy update mechanism that works without requiring any command line inputs. Some updates do, yes, very much the same as Windows Update. However, Java does not seem to be in that list.
Also, whenever I have gone to download something there are always directions on how to install/update on Linux and it always has command line options.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Before downloading an archive for installation you should check if the software is listed in the distribution's repository. Then it will be installed and updated by the graphical package management.
You are right for Java. That requires a single 'apt-get' command line execution.
Most distributions did not contain non open source packages by default. These may be hold in special packages or must be installed manually.
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Thanks.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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It is mostly a matter of the repositories you have in your list...If you list there a repository for Java, Java will be updated automatically...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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In general, Mint Linux[^] is the easiest Linux distro I've had installed on any of my machines. It is basically customized Ubuntu - contains some proprietary drivers out of the box and therefore is easier to set up.
But frankly, I don't understand what is so scary about command line - we are all software professionals here and deal with much more complicated concepts. In fact, I use command window on Windows all the time - some tasks are just easier with cmd.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: In general, Mint Linux[^] is the easiest Linux distro I've had installed on any of my machines Thanks.
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: I don't understand what is so scary about command line Nothing at all. However, when I need to update Java or something else, I don't want to have to lookup command lines just to be able to do it. I want to get to my task and not spending time looking up stuff that should be so simple this many years into it.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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