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Xaotiq wrote: this site is becoming much more of a rep circle jerk as is seen on SO. What is 'rep', could you define what you mean by 'rep'?
I come to code project because it has some of the best resources and people on the web for .NET coding. Also the lounge is a good place to hange out as the humour and interests of those on the lounge broadly match mine.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Xaotiq wrote: However it seems those "best" resources care more about ego than actually assisting people
This is EXACTLY why rep is meaningless in any online forum.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Xaotiq wrote: this site is becoming much more of a rep circle jerk
It has been for many years now. I don't know why O bother coming here really, it certainly isn't for technical info, stackoverflow is way better.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: ... stackoverflow is way better.
Quick, where's the abuse button?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Have some cheese with that whine?
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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You might have a point.
On the other hand, it's a shame how many low rep users don't even make an effort to write good questions!
Sometimes it's just a copy of a homework assignment without further remarks.
Sometimes it's written in the native language of the poster while this is obviously an English website.
Sometimes there's just not a lot at all.
Sometimes the poster is probably trying really hard, but sometimes our best isn't good enough and the post as a whole is still incomprehensible gibberish.
Sometimes these low rep users just don't make sense! They'll ask you, in proper English, "How can I make the C# Linux Drupal work on my Assembler Android iPad?"
Sometimes it seems as though the poster just doesn't know how to use the internet at all!
I've seen articles posted by these members that's nothing more than the template that's generated for you (literally!)...
Having seen hundreds, or maybe even thousands, of those posts does test the patience of some high rep users.
Luckily, I still see more than a fair share of newbies from around the globe who do make it as respectable members of the community though!
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Yes yes, there are a lot of questions which are really stupid, I agree. I don't mean these..... and I also don't like to post the links of today's deleted (but reasonable - even easy - questions), this not to blame the person who deleted them.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: this not to blame the person who deleted them.
So how do you expect the person to change his behaviour?
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Because you, low reputation members, deserve it!
Just kidding, of course.
0x01AA wrote: Questions will be simply deleted (by a single member), because they deemed unworthy
This is, in my opinion a major flaw of the Q&A, you are perfectly right. More often than not, deleting a question is pointless.
Quote: Sorry, but English is -in most (?) cases- not the mother tongue of the questioner!
Look at how many times questions were deleted today, simply because you were not correctly written in English ... and yes sometimes also a little bit poor explained…but please…
Again, you are right (possibly because I am not mother tongue too?).
On the overall, I simply agree with you.
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Thank you for your courage to write this publicly.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: Questions will be simply deleted (by a single member), because they deemed
unworthy Not sure whether a normal member can, even with high rep.
0x01AA wrote: and yes sometimes also a little bit poor explained I'd say that pointing that out is more valuable than getting the answer to a single question. Someone who asks poor questions will always get poor responses.
0x01AA wrote: That a question be repeated is probably the normal! No, it is not. Come and repeat the question to my face, just to see the full effect. If you can spare the time to spam the board with your question, instead of researching it, then you are effectively pushing someone who offers spare time to do your work.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Quote: Not sure whether a normal member can, even with high rep.
Yep it is possible. Happend today tseveral times. And no, I don't will post them in order to preserve the integrity of the member(s).
Quote: Come and repeat the question to my face....
Sorry, but also Google in English is not alyways easy for None natives.
Please have more compassion, thank you.
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0x01AA wrote: And no, I don't will post them in order to preserve the integrity of the member(s).
Well, hang on a minute. You're effectively accusing them of having no integrity and now you're protecting it? This seems to be a very convenient way of you having a good old whine without the need for any actual evidence to support your argument.
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Hang on two minutes and be patience with a None native.
I don't like to list the reported Q&A, because than one can see the reportes....ok?
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: Yep it is possible. Happend today tseveral times.
Are you sure they were actually deleted by a single member? I seem to recall there's a slight issue with the message, when three users flag the same question for different reasons, and only the last user is shown on the "closed by" message.
AFAIK, only protectors and staff have the big red "delete question" button.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Yes I'm sure that questions were deleted because of one Report of one member. At least that is what I see if I have a look to the question.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Well, neither of us can see the raw data, so if the message is incorrectly displaying only one member, when three members actually flagged the question for different reasons, then there's no way to know for sure.
I think a bug-ette in the "closed by" message is far more likely that a loophole that lets one user close a question on their own. But if you still think that's happening, why not drop the hamsters an email[^] with a link to the question(s) and ask them to check? They're quite friendly, and hardly ever bite.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Quote: Well, neither of us can see the raw data
No, sorry that does not Count. If I see the Report than it Counts. Otherwhise you can also say I started a post here about "anything other".
Sorry, that I can not express it more clear.
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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0x01AA wrote: No, sorry that does not Count. If I see the Report than it Counts.
No, you don't seem to understand.
If three users report a question, but each selects a different option, then the "closed by" message only shows the last user who reported the question.
That doesn't mean that the question was closed by one user. It was still reported by three users. It just means that the message is wrong.
Since neither of us can see the raw data to check who actually reported the question and why, neither of us can know for certain which of us is correct. Therefore, there is no point in arguing about it here.
As I said, if you remain convinced that a single user is closing questions, ask the admins. They do have access to the raw data, and whilst they won't necessarily tell you who reported the question, they will be able to tell you how many reports it received.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Ok, thank you for explanation. Now it makes sense.
Thanks.
[EDIT]
Sorry it was/is my English, which was the Problem. Your last Explanation "without slang" was very good.
Thank you again.
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0x01AA wrote: And no, I don't will post them in order to preserve the integrity of the
member(s). If you feel that you have been done wrong, please raise the topic with an admin; they'll be able to review what happened, and make any corrections if required.
0x01AA wrote: Sorry, but also Google in English is not alyways easy for None natives. You don't have to be native in English; I'm not, and still we are discussing ethics on a forum.
It will be hard to deny that most of the community and documentation is aimed at a single language. It makes sharing of ideas and concepts easier. As soon as that changes, we'll find new barriers.
0x01AA wrote: Please have more compassion, thank you. ..I guess it could never hurt to try that at least
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Thank you
modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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One thing that might not be obvious (and I apologise - I haven't read the entire thread so someone else may have already said this) ...
Regarding Quote: Questions will be simply deleted (by a single member), because they deemed
unworthy I have noticed sometimes that I have been listed as the only member closing a post yet when I have "reported" it (unclear, off topic, not a question etc) then mine is the third report - i.e. 2 other members thought the same before me, yet my name is the only one listed.
It doesn't bother me because I know I wasn't the only person who thought that way! The point is posts are usually only deleted/closed once sufficient members have flagged them.
A single Protector can delete a post. For example, I can do that, but I reserve that act for clear spam or self-answers to questions where the member really meant to update their question or post a comment (in the latter case I always let the poster know what I am about to do and provide guidelines to avoid the problem in the future). If you think a Protector (including me) is abusing that power, then please report it to Chris or Sean or via the Sugs&Bugs forum
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