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I agree. Using an IDE because it does a lot of the grunt work for me doesn't imply that I've forgotten how or was never capable of doing it manually, only that I have other things to do with my time. I know how to use a broom and vacuum... but I prefer to let my Roomba do it for me.
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John Crumpton wrote: I prefer to let my Roomba do it for me.
My wife does that. Sometimes. Maybe. Or we just move. :shrug:
Generally I use Visual Studio when I need the Designer or debugger or to explore an unfamiliar namespace. If a particualr task doesn't require any of those, then VS isn't helping.
Oh, one other reason I use VS is for manipulating TFS; I treat the TFS repository as a Project on its own.
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You're not comparing VS with fine German engineering, are you?
Just a BMW's ABS means it shouldn't crash as often as VS.
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VS to BMW is like Lada to Learjet.
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I wonder if you boss knows you are doing this, or may be you don't have a boss.
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My boss is only interested in the SSIS part of what I do and having it in TFS; and that requires VS.
How I write the utilities that I use to make my job easier doesn't interest him.
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Well, for that he (and you) can just install Atom.io[^]
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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I think I looked at that a few years ago.
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A few "years" ago? It's only just recently been released... Perhaps you're a time traveler?
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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You're thinking of the latter, but that was the "beta". It is now out of beta and has been "released". There was a post about it in the last few weeks in the "Insider News" forum.
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Marc Clifton wrote: Visual Studio
Real developers only use Vi.
You can lead a developer to CodeProject, but you can't make them think.
The Theory of Gravity was invented for the sole purpose of distracting you from investigating the scientific fact that the Earth sucks.
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Wes Aday wrote: Vi
You elitist snob. Use EDLIN!
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You elitist snob. Talk directly to the processor using binary!
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Obligatory xkcd: Real Programmers[^]
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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I am sooo glad I never had to use a line editor. While some of my classmates were using EDT (?) in line mode, the cool kids showed me how to use TECO in screen mode (this was on a PDP-11).
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mmm, good old days, PDP 11/60 RSTS/E, OMSI Pascal, (?Variant)BASIC
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Garth J Lancaster wrote: (?Variant)BASIC
BASIC-PLUS is what I first learned on a PDP-11. Then some form of Pascal also on a PDP-11. Most of my college work was in VAX Pascal.
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Holy sh*t! I completely forgot about that from my PDP-11/44 days back in school. It was far better than using the line printer terminals, but in those COBOL days, anything was better than sitting there writing it out on paper.
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Also glad I never had to do that. The 80s was a great time to begin using computers.
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Marc Clifton wrote: I'm not going to help you
Me think he is doing us a favor here!
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Because "succeed" is not in their dictionary?
Hey, what's the past tense of "succeed"?
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