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Suffering from a fair amount of being too honest myself, I can definitely vouch for the fact that it can be a weakness. A second weakness, being quite direct with people, doesn´t help either...
On the other hand, on occassion you can turn that into a strength, and often, after a while, people will actually appreciate it.
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Every time I visit Diablo's forum (A blizzard game) the forum are full of aggressive, whining, better than thou people bashing the game and other posters.
On the other hand CodeProject are quite civil! And not even any complaints!
So, I wonder... how does one (Webmaster) contains an online forum toxicity?!
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The threat of Sean posting man-kini pics hangs over us like the sword of Damoclese.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Wow, it never occurred to me to wonder if there was an active force sanitizing the forum. Well whatever it is, it works.
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That's true that Blizzard's forums are not the best example for that matter.
If I had to say why, I would bet on 'a lot of (pre)teenagers who don't care much for anything but themselves and their stick'. The fact that it is a paid service, which is not always at the level people would expect, can be one of the explanations, also. Or the fact that some people develop a form of addiction towards games, and addictions can make people really creepy.
I would not like to be a Blizzard's community manager.
I never finish anyth
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I suspect this might the crux of it... paid service.. not what you want...
but there is more! ^^
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Super Lloyd wrote: how does one (Webmaster) contains an online forum toxicity? With the standard techniques: water-boarding, electro-shock to sensitive areas, sleep/sensory deprivation, use of extreme heat, cold, continual loud unpredictable noises.
Of course, you also want to immediately excommunicate any member who writes about problems on your forum on any other forum.
The trick is to culture the right kind of trolls on your forum, the kind will do your dirty work for you, while you appear magisterially "above the fray."
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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such good techniques! Hahah!
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We really bad guys are relegated to the Backroom or some such place....
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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yeah, the soapbox might be another solution!
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They even have their own song
http://www.calonsong.org/CalontirSongs/hamstersong.htm[^]
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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The first step is to not host a gaming forum. That way you wont appeal to the younger crowds.
The problem with gaming is that people who are good (plows endless hours in to something that in most cases is a waste of time) feel entitled to be assholes. By flaming others about how they do this and that wrong or how noobish they are they can feel like their non-accomplishments are worth something. This is what I believe in large parts.
A place like here on code project got a different crowd. Mostly problem solvers who realize that there isn't a set way to do something and if someone puts forward a different way of doing things I think most people here are interested in the ins and outs to see if there is something to learn.
I think it's important how you cultivate the climate on a web community, especially early on. Not just striking down on those that misbehaves but rather encourage those that behave well.
But mostly the type of community will be the biggest factor.
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Sometimes I wonder just what it is that makes CodeProject my favorite place. Everything seems so well organized and thought out. The best full-fledged examples can be found on CodeProject. The forum posters either seem to be well educated and competent programmers, or genuinely interested in being mentored by the others. And they are all so polite, I suspect that many of them are Canadian. Is it the type font? Or maybe the orange and white color scheme? The only problem I have with CodeProject is that it seems to be biased towards Microsoft solutions. If I want non-Microsoft solutions, I don't yet know of one place that has it all so well presented as in CodeProject. If someone knows of such a place, please let me know. GitHub and StackExchange are my favorite go-to places for that, but they still don't seem to have it all together as does CodeProject. (BTW, I am hoping to at least get a cookie from this "rant".)
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Well just get into a real Game Newb, you belong there if you are also playing that newbZ Game.
All tehre a flaming NewbZ just like you, so go Newb yourself.
I think most ppl dont understand the value of a game and complain to much about whats stupid then talk about whats great
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People tend to take it to seriously in a lot of cases. I remember when I was 15 and played World of Warcraft... Not my finest days. If my parents asked me to do something at the wrong time I told them it's an online game, you cant pause. Etc.. But it did help develop my English skills at least.
Now I'm way more casual in my gaming. But my wife is an avid MMO player and tend to get worked up at people who suck when trying to cooperate or when something disturbers her. And I just tell her it's her fault because she plans her sessions wrong. That's not very popular.
But it's easy to get worked up in games, especially team oriented or when it's competitive. but nowadays I've changed my opinion and put myself at fault if I get worked up for something disturbs me irl.
My finest hour must have been when playing CS:GO competitively in the last rounds of the match with a few friends and had my then 2 year old in the lap. Lets say that there was a certain warmth spreading over my thighs. But we won and that's what counts right?
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You got older yeah
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Yeah but there is another aspect to this.
If someone wants to progress at a game and has a job - so play time is reduced to about two hours per day or less(if you have kids maybe you only play on weekends). You realize you won't get far and can play casually. But when someone makes such stupid mistakes, that hold back the whole group(a lot of that with WoW) and you only have two or three chances to get it right and then you have to go, that gets frustrating. I mean, I wouldn't go into full rage mode, but I wouldn't like playing with that person unless they get informed about what to do. For example: If I brought my Voidlord pet into a raid - that is a mistake for which you give a warning or two and then if the player doesn't fix it - kick from raid. If it's a guild raid - that's another story
I'm not defending toxic forums, but I understand people getting enraged about it.
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Yeah, I can understand that sadly I've had to take the route where I got to priorities what games I play. I'd love to play and raid with my wife but I cant muster the will to mindlessly level anymore, even if raiding and instancing can be fun all the time sinks and "obligations" that goes with it makes it impossible for me.
But I can squeeze in a few rounds of world of warships every now and then and even thou there are a lot of bad players it's not so bad because a games max time is 20min I thin k and you can always leave when you are dead and go with another ship.
What I also like with ships is that after a few tiers there are a higher likelihood of a good game because most people tend to learn how to play their class by then.
I was and still am to some points against the easyfication of wow, I played in the early days when there was maybe 1 or 2 guilds that could do all the instances and where it felt like an accomplishment when your guild managed to defeat harder and harder bosses but today I realize that it allows more people to enjoy the content. Nostalgia is a bitch.
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Member 11683251 wrote: My finest hour must have been when playing CS:GO competitively in the last rounds of the match with a few friends and had my then 2 year old in the lap. Lets say that there was a certain warmth spreading over my thighs. But we won and that's what counts right?
Yeah man! That's the spirit!
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But did your young one notice your relief?
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Super Lloyd wrote: are quite civil
For people to be civil, someone has to be military
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Super Lloyd wrote: how does one (Webmaster) contains an online forum toxicity?! Don't allow this[^]? (Oops!)
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