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Win 10 started nagging me to switch to pin over pwd quite some time ago. They gave some whodeewhatsis about it somehow being more secure. My thought was, "How is 4 digits more secure than my much longer alphanumeric pwd?" But, then I discovered that I could set my pin to alphanumeric characters and more than 4. So I did. When I login now it shows a box to enter my PIN and I enter my longer alphanumeric value and I'm in.
So, I don't know if by using alphas when I set the PIN it just silently fell back to pwd or if I really am using their fancy new pin. It stopped nagging me so I stopped caring. To me it just looks and acts like a password.
To be honest, in my case I don't think it matters. My copy of windows is a virtualbox vm which is only started once or twice a week if and when I need it and closed when I'm done.
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The pin is more secure because it's tied to your device, while your password isn't.
In other words, when hackers steal your password, they can break in to your Microsoft account, email, all your logged in devices, etc.
When they steal your pin they can only enter your PC (and then probably everything else by extension)
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Ah, thank you. Tying it to a specific device makes sense. I'm sure that was explained to me when the switch to using a PIN was offered. I'd just forgotten.
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Thanks for that reminder. I had forgotten MS's "explanation" for the PIN being somehow "more secure".
And it really isn't; in fact the bar is seriously lowered. Anyone looking over my shoulder could probably make a pretty good guess as to what my PIN is - not so with my password. Once logged in, I can access an awful lot of my data without ever being prompted for anything else.
Being tied to the device doesn't prevent anyone from using it where it is, unless MS thinks I'm going to start paying armed guards to stand at my door.
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I'm not getting it.
If I select the same PIN for all my devices, it is not unique for any of them. If I select different PINs for each device, they are 'unique' for each device. (How many devices exist? Divide the number by 10000 to see how many devices, on the average, share that 'unique' PIN!)
If I select the same password for all my devices, it is not unique for any of them. If I select different passwords for each device, they are unique for each device.
Some years ago, there was a web page publishing all the PIN codes in the world (4-digit). Your PIN code is publicly known!
Being somewhat more serious: A brute force attack against a 4-digit PIN hardly requires any brutality or force! I've met people who use a 3-5 char password, and argue along the lines 'But inside the computer, a perfectly safe RSA 2048 key is used!' A little knowledge is a dangerous thing!
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...and the part I'm not getting is whether you're agreeing that a PIN is any better than a strong password.
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when I was setting my win11 laptop up I couldn't find an option to not use a "pin", but I was able to enter a pin with the same length/complexity as a password.
Quote:
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Once - but not now - I judge and pardon? (9)
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Nice one
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I liked it!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Exonerate
Once - but not now: EX
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Judge: RATE
Pardon = EXONERATE
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And you are up tomorrow!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Wordle 662 5/6*
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Wordle 662 5/6*
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Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
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Wordle 662 3/6
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In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Looked it up.
It was the only possible word and I've never even heard of it (not even the Dutch word).
Sounds like a Pokémon or a Dr. Seuss character
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I thought it was a tradename, but no ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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So did I (think it was a trade name) - I guessed it to eliminate it - never thought it was the answer
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Wordle 662 5/6
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GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Nice symmetry Looks like a chess piece!
Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
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What a second guess!
Wordle 662 2/6
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Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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