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On a train, a number of years ago, I watched a wonderful Japanese movie called "Shall we Dansu".
It's one of those movies that seriously grabs you by the things that you may be grabbed by (JSOP: look elsewhere). I've happily watched it several times, since then.
The missus pointed out to me, the other day, that it had been remade in hollywood, with *immense greats* like Dicky Gere, "Tweak-my-Nipples" Lopez, and "Anything-for-Money" Sarandon.
Please remind me never to watch hollywood remakes of good movies, eh?
I am unbelievably pissed off at how cr@ppy the remake is -- A hundred times the budget, a hundredth of the value.
Following up from an earlier thread:
Producing art isn't hard; you just need real artists to be involved and to do the creative work.
Do we have a date when hollywood will fall into the sea? Please don't tell any of the morons who live there.
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One Hollywood remake that was not great but not unwatchably bad was Solaris:
Solaris (2002) - IMDb[^] Nothing like the real thing but still OK.
And a, believe it or not, brilliant Shakespeare out of Hollywood was was this:
Much Ado About Nothing (2012) - IMDb[^]
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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megaadam wrote: believe it or not
Joss Whedon screenplay, Joss Whedon's usual suspects acting, Joss Whedon directing. What d'ya mean, believe it or not?
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It is a great Shakespeare movie. And it is out of Hollywood. Some people may find that unexpected. That's all.
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megaadam wrote: Solaris (2002) - IMDb[^]
I think the original is quite a lot better -- if you play it at 1.5x speed.
megaadam wrote: Much Ado About Nothing (2012) - IMDb[^]
Shakespeare by Whedon? I'll have to look it up. Branagh's version was technically a Hollywood movie, but was also damned good.
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IMHO Whedon's version is a lot better than Branagh's, which is no bad.
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Just ordered it.
So if I think it's cr@p, I'll be sending you the bill!
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If you like Shakespeare, I think you will like the film. But if you do send me the bill you should send the movie as well!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Please remind me never to watch hollywood remakes of good movies, eh?
Well, good news then - today they're remaking all the bad ones too!
And if that's not enough, there's also the reboots, and the reboots of reboots.
What a time to be alive.
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Greedy hollywood's remakes[^]. Apart from remakes, they do reboots, sequels, prequels & making more franchises. Clickety[^]
Mark_Wallace wrote: Do we have a date when hollywood will fall into the sea?
reality[^] 
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How does that chart represent a decline in original films when it gives just 20 of the hundreds of films released in a period and is far from clear on what basis they have been chosen? You don't consider it at all misleading that films which became and were probably always intended to become franchises/series such as 48 Hours, Airplane!, Friday the 13th, and Poltergeist are all listed as original? And how does Any Which Way You Can get listed as original when it's a sequel to Every Which Way But Loose? How is Popeye an adaptation when it's manifestly a reboot?
If it shows anything it is only that the audience for series, remakes etc. has increased. Are you suggesting that Hollywood should only produce films that nobody wants to see (presumably because it's good for them)? Hollywood's bread and butter has always been franchises (Sherlock Holmes, Charlie Chan, James Bond) remakes and reboots (Frankenstein, Dracula), and formulaic stories (Shirley Temple, Mickey Rooney). It's what makes financing the truly original works possible. Complaining about it seems an awful lot like biting the hand that feeds you!
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9082365 wrote: How does that chart represent a decline in original films when it gives just 20 of the hundreds of films released in a period and is far from clear on what basis they have been chosen?
Still I could bring more data from web. Hollywood started blockbuster mentality long time ago(Started after movies Star wars & Jaws). They don't want to take risks by trying original ideas. So they simply choose adaptations, remakes & reboots(with franchises) which're familiar with most people. Of-course they do try original ideas rarely.
I'm not against to remakes but recent years Hollywood making too much bad remakes. Recently Point break, Hitman, Poltergeist, Robocop, etc., were sucked.
Good remakes IMO few here:
Original - Remake(s)
Yojimbo - Fistful of dollars
Sever Samurai - The Magnificent Seven & A Bug's Life
Dawn of the dead - Dawn of the dead
The ring - The ring
Recently Jungle book is good & better than original movie.
There're some more good remakes there but I haven't seen original movie of remakes(such as The Departed) so didn't mention those here.
Same thing goes for other things such as reboots & sequels/prequels.
Reboots:
I liked Nolan's Batman series. I hated Amazing spider-man reboot. Fantastic four 2015 version sucked very badly. They should give enough break(at-least 10 years) before making reboots.
Sequels:
I liked Indiana jones sequels. And so Harry potter, Lord of the rings, Toy story. Hated series like Transformers & Twilight. Most of horror movie sequels suck badly.
Prequels:
Liked X-Men : First class & Red Dragon. But there're so many tasteless prequels made to make just money. Recent one is Annabelle.
I hated them when Hollywood never tried(at-least they made big delay for some movies) same thing for some good movies like below:
Dredd, Hellboy, Pacific Rim(far better than Transformers), etc.,
I don't have problem with Adaptations. After Harry potter & Lord of the rings, studios trying to make more adaptations with series. We're getting series like Hunger games, Maze runner & divergent. Comic book movies also fine for me. I liked Hellboy, X-Men series, Dredd, Spiderman 2, Kick ass, Sin city, Super man 1 & 2, Watchmen, etc.,
9082365 wrote: If it shows anything it is only that the audience for series, remakes etc. has increased. Are you suggesting that Hollywood should only produce films that nobody wants to see (presumably because it's good for them)?
That's why we're not getting much original script movies. But fortunately Indie film-makers making good movies with original ideas.
9082365 wrote: Hollywood's bread and butter has always been franchises (Sherlock Holmes, Charlie Chan, James Bond) remakes and reboots (Frankenstein, Dracula), and formulaic stories (Shirley Temple, Mickey Rooney).
Already I mentioned my opinions above(on remakes & reboots). Bond! I liked Daniel craig's version very much after connery's. Frankenstein & Dracula? I remember the movie Van helsing which I liked but so many people hated that movie. I was expecting sequel to that movie but never happened & they're rebooting again. That movie has been directed by Stephen sommers. I liked his Mummy movies which is also a remake but enjoyed both movies(I don't like 3rd one - Tomb dragon).
Let me put briefly. Since last 10 years, Hollywood making too much remakes, reboots, sequels/prequels & most of them're bad.
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Yojimbo. Remade in Italy in the glorious 60's (cinematocraphically speaking) by the great Sergio Leone, "For a fistful of dollars".
Great movies, both of them.
Then came hollywood with "Last Man Standing". I like Bruce Willis and I love brutal testosteronic B-movies... but come on!
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: Then came hollywood with "Last Man Standing".
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It's so trash that I want to see it - only because it's so bad it's good. It like watching kung fusion with respect to the Bruce Lee movies... funny but nothing like the immortal originals, which were true (thus debatable) art.
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You can only dedicate so many hours to watching movies before you die.
I'd suggest not wasting those hours.
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All work and no play make John a dull boy.
All work and no play make John a dull boy.
All work and no play make John a dull boy...
There was a time when I had only the time to work, study and work to fix a hell of a period: I was the very worst person around and believe me, you wouldn't want to get in 10 feet around me. So yes, if watching movies / playing games / planning my D&D campaign keeps me inside the premises of mental sanity thopse hours are anything but wasted. At least it grants me some more year of life...
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
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Your expectations were way too high. 'Hollywood remakes foreign film and the result is equal to/better than the original?'
True Grit (2010) also a remake but of another Hollywood effort is in my opinion way better than the earlier one.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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pwasser wrote: True Grit (2010) also a remake but of another Hollywood effort is in my opinion way better than the earlier one.
They're different animals, but both fun to watch.
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So I set off looking for a simple screen capture video recorder blithely assuming that freeware is still out there to be found. What I find instead is that 'free' doesn't mean 'free' any more. Free means try now pay later, or restricted use, or saves only to YouTube, or ad support, or piles of junk thrown in, or sell your soul, or anyone of a thousand other deals with the devil. When did that happen?
Anyway, if anyone can recommend an actually free program fit for purpose you'll find me on my despair chair wondering where it all went wrong and pondering all the other disillusionments of the 21st Century (did you know there's not even any coal tar in coal tar soap these days?)
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Have you looked here: Top 10 Free Camtasia Studio Alternatives - eLearning Industry[^]
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Not that particular site but one very like it. CamStudio is the top recommendation on both but it seems to have fallen into grubby hands since and most of the other suggestions fall under the taint of not really being free when you examine them properly. Hence my rantette.
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CamStudio is still free, as far a I know. At least it was a couple months ago when I downloaded it.
It's still a PITA to use, of course, too.
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It is still free but there have been multiple reports of it being infected with malware. As you will understand I'm not keen on finding out whether they are true or not!
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Ah. It's not the program itself. It's other folks repackaging the download and hosting it on other sites "as a convenience".
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