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Been there too. When the manufacturer doesn't provide driver downloads (usually when they go bust or sell out), it means jumping through hoops looking up device IDs and all kinds of BS during a OS reinstall.
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My best experience.
1999, 56k modem just bought, no previous modems or Internet connection of course. The drivers on the floppy do not work. Phone the company? A Fax answers. Rembmer, no Internet so no way to reach them. After wweks of hocus pocus (it costed 50.000 lire after all, ~60€ now) we give up and buy another modem, this one works. Old one got buried and forgotten.
2004, Internet available, we try to install that modem on another PC, download the drivers from the web: they work, while the included ones not.
To make it short: a device that enabled a person to access to the Internet needed the Internet to download it's own drivers, otherwise it wouldn't work. Damn good.
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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If it's windows apps you're after, just go to NoNags[^].
They won't even list software that has nag screens.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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That's how long it's taken me to register a simple (as in: easy to distinguish as being unused for any "normal" purpose, and with no prior art-ishness) trademark in all required countries.
Talk about a fruggin' PITA.
I should have settled for ™, and bugger the ®.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Hi, Mark,
I would really appreciate seeing an article here on the process you went through.
cheers, Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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(Added to the To Do list)
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Thanks to the internet, one can read old electronics and computer magazines from the first issues in the 1950s to the last in the 1990s or 2000s.
I was looking for hardware projects and programs for my old computer, as well as some time travel back to a time when everything was new and programming was fun.
I also found some issues I owned back then, including this one.[^]
Isn't that a great robot? My only trouble with such robots all this time has been that they are blind and deaf and that processors used to be too slow to process the input from the sensors.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
modified 22-Nov-16 18:07pm.
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CDP1802 wrote: Isn't that a great robot?
Ah, the S3E3!
(Sorry; my head is still full of trademark gubbins.)
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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CDP1802 wrote: one can read old electronics and computer magazines
Ok Lookie[^] - an article that predates Code Project. I wrote that in 1983. Gads, I was 21.
Marc
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Ah the commodore 64, my first computer. My first program was on that and it estimated the number of tiles and other resources required to cover a roof.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I remember reading that at the time!
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Besinger wrote: I remember reading that at the time!
Seriously?!?!? Wow. I was a guest author for Personal Electronic Transactions, the guy who did the regular column, Gregory Yob, was in many ways a great mentor to me, we actually roomed together for a while after I got myself kicked out of my mother's house. 
Marc
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Yep, I was in the Air Force playing around with a friend's Commodore 64 at the time and writing COBOL for the USAF.
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CDP1802 wrote: My only trouble with such robots all this time has been that they are blind and deaf and that processors used to be too slow to process the input from the sensors.
Yeah?
Well Margaret Hamilton[^] was able to put some humans on the moon with very little processing power during the Apollo 11 program[^].
The truth is that software engineers here in 2016 are several magnitudes less-efficient than our predecessors.
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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CDP1802 wrote: Thanks to the internet, one can read old electronics and computer magazines from the first issues in the 1950s to the last in the 1990s or 2000s
Just one question: where? :puppyeyes:
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Here[^]
they have even more, like Radio Electronics or Byte.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Thanks a lot, now I can be even more geeky than I usually am!
DURA LEX, SED LEX
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Cool stuff actually 
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Mmmm! I have been thinking that some of those 70's - 80's robot plans in EW etc could be built with modern componets and upgraded with micro-controllers etc... I want an R2 unit! 
Is there a link to the contents...
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Try this one[^]
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Cheers! As the French would say Merky Bucket!
modified 23-Nov-16 5:46am.
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Check it out, the book Plip-Plop-Pond is #56 in Amazon Best-sellers under the Computer Programming Category.
What are you devs reading out there?
Amazon Best Sellers: Best Computer Programming[^]
Edit
Wait, it fell to #66 now. Hmm...
modified 22-Nov-16 14:31pm.
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An existing review, with minor edits:
I'm aware of the importance of introducing the concept of programming early on to get little ones prepared for coding one day and to teach them that static typing is enjoyable. For junior devs, that means getting them used to feeling types (sometimes tasting, it can be hard to get them not to do that and it's how they explore), holding them and encouraging them to look at the pictures of compiler errors.
Marc
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Yes, everyone should be learning the newest programming language : plip-plop.
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