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Using Visual Studio Team Services here and it's great, naturally not using TFVC for source control but as VSTS supports Git why would you?
Back in the days of TFS 2010 then yeah, that sucked pretty badly. 2013 got much better but Team Services is where it's at for me.
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines
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I setup TFS 2013-15 in our company, a complete switchover from our previous source control and bug tracking.
We use local TFS, not TFS online. For source control everything is instantanous, and we're using TFVC not Git (which has a local repo). I think it's fantastic and the whole company loves it.
Keep in mind we're all using Visual Studio 2015 so the integration is basically flawless.
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same here TFS works great for us (using SCRUM) - also wrote some custom server-plugins and Tools - you can do a lot with the API - I like the "open" way of MS.
But I can understand the critics about TeamExplorer UI in VS...
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We use our own networked instance and its been fine.
The only place I find it lacking is I'd like to be able to find in files without having to get latest.
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My previous employers used TFS Online.
We could never find anything.
I agree it's a mess, never got used to it.
Now using JIRA.
It took a little getting used to, but at least I can find stuff there now.
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TFS uses wrong terminology, as a result it always does something completely unexpected.
If you have to use it (company decision) then employees must be properly trained at first place.
If the company doesn't do the training prerequisite than the use of TFS is clunky and TFS functionality is limited.
Finaly conclusion: run away of it unless your company is (big) Microsoft Partner (or something).
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Terminology is pretty simple:
Check-out to start working on a file;
check-in to send files that are checked out into the main repository;
Rollback to undo a check-in;
Undo to undo a check-out (revert changes).
You have a command line, an integration with the file system or the visual studio integration (the best option, where things are pretty clear).
It is much simpler than any other system, it's user interface in Visual Studio is very simple and straightforward - I teach it to newbies in 5 minutes.
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I use Subversion and have been using it for years with no problems.
I agree with everyone else here. TFS is not very intuitive at all and no matter how long I used it I still couldn't remember that there were two separate interfaces to do various tasks.
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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I've been using it for the last two years and for the most part find it no worse or particularly better than the others. What I don't like is Microsoft changing the interface and there is no notice until after the fact when they get around to sending an email. What makes this worse is they don't keep the documentation current so you try to find out how to do something and the doc doesn't match.
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I kinda think the answer is, "poorly".
We changed from TFS to git earlier this year. Sure, it takes a while to get used to the local and remote repos in git, but once you're past that, you no longer have the frustrating little "nuances" of TFS mentioned in many of the other replies.
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Have used it for years. Works fine.
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Just booted my Win 7 laptop up, no taskbar icons, all my mapped drives and shortcuts gone, Dropbox folder missing - looks like my profile has got corrupted - where to start ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Upgrade to W10
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Ron Anders wrote: If it said something about your profile not being able to be loaded then do this.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947215/en-us
Works every time.
Gotta boot into safe mode to do it though.
Or boot in to another Administrator account. That's what I do now and haven't had an issue.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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... how you liked that beer.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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CDP1802 wrote:
... how you liked that beer. |
It was very good. I have had it in the past, back when we were allowed to have an Oktoberfest with litre steins and no one worrying if we were paraletic. I of course was, so memory of all that was drunk was non existent.
I didn't read the not so fine print that told me the carton was 18 bottles and not Australia's standard 24. So the deal wasn't as good as I thought, but bloody good beer all the same.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Good to hear. I would send you some, but shipping it around the planet would not be cheap. Long ago I had my beer air transported to me by an airline called Luftwaffe, but those connections are long gone.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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All I got when I booted was a notification about a firmware upgrade for my Brother printer which I declined, I then saw all my taskbar icons where white and non responsive, all drive mappings had disappeared etc etc, restoring from a backup now - bloody pain
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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You could also restart the windows explorer service (explorer.exe). this has helped me in the past. (on two separate occasions this has worked for me)
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Yea tried that - no good - restoring from backup now
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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pkfox wrote: Just booted my Win 7 laptop up, no taskbar icons... This is just a wild guess, but have you looked into the registered window message called TaskbarCreated ?
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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No - but I will
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Mine does weird things occasionally, usually a reboot takes care of it.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.2.2 Beta I told my psychiatrist that I was hearing voices in my head. He said you don't have a psychiatrist!
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Had another letter from TWC inviting me to try cable TV again.
Then I read it through, one part made me laugh:
SPECTRUM INTERNET
Fastest Speeds
Unleash faster internet with 100Mbps starting speed.
Or, keep your current internet speed of 300Mbps for $40 a month more.
Yup, sign me up to upgrade me by downgrading me to a lower speed for the same money and then charge me $40 a month more to go back to where I started.
No wonder these morons are losing customers by the hundreds of thousands.
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