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My theory: The universe is like an expanding balloon with everything that currently exists sitting on the surface. Heavy objects like black holes, stars, and planets sink into the surface warping space-time to create gravity. If you could travel at a rate faster than expansion, you would eventually come back around to the starting point. The interior of the balloon is the past.
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Maybe "space" is infinite, but the big-ball-of-wobbly-stuff we call "the Universe" isn't?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Forogar wrote: what is beyond the edges of this non-infinite universe?
IMO, the question cannot be answered because nothingness is still conceptually "the lack of something", so there is no "beyond," but that's similarly a null reference exception! But realistically, I suspect no one, even given an infinite amount of time, would ever be able to know, because the universe will end before we can reach even the point where light from the edge could reach us.
Now, that's another conundrum -- if the universe ends in time, what does it end as?
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Einstein wasn't sure: "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not yet completely sure about the universe"
(Allegedly; it quoted in the book Gestalt Therapy Verbatim by Frederick S. Perls, but the attribution is disputed)
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I think it is infinite.
Give me a minute... I think I have a map around here some place that proves it.
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Wrong. The correct answer is: We don't know.
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FTFY
Forogar wrote: Therefore, do you think they would all have developed a infinite numbers of Windows 10 O/S?
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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An infinite number of monkeys on an infinite number of keyboards, aware this as a possible random outcome of their typing, would all kill themselves, first.
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No, but there are parallel universes. Our parallel universe has Mr. Spock sporting a goatee.
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Thats, just like Drakes equation, full of assumptions. And like Drake, you are being rather optimistic.
We already know that there is no sign of intelligent life in the observable universe. So, we have to consider the possibility that we are living on the first planet with some form of life.
..in which case we could refer to Windows 10 as "the prime evil"
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Quote: no sign of intelligent life in the observable universe Including this planet!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Indeed[^]!
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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No, not quite.
The universe can be infinite without having infinite mass or infinite number of particles.
"infinite" just means it doesn't stop. Take a number and divide it by 2. Keep going. Forever. That's infinite.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Forogar wrote: Assuming the Universe is infinite then the number of stars in said Universe must also be infinite
Say what? You lost me right there.
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How can something run into infinite if it had a beginning. What i want to say is, that the universe is bound to the subject that made it possible. So for example once the Sustainer disposes it, it no longer can be infinite it will be set to absolute nothing. Only in theoretical Math values can have a beginning and be infinite, but again, even so, when the environment is disposed, then that loop will also crash, because there will be no spectator and no physics. Do you not realize that the world is programmed just as you program something, only the Creator of everything is exactly knowing what He is doing, He is most-excellent at it. Do you expect yourself a programer and your apps intelligent design, while the universe and "life" came from Nothing?
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According to Einstein, the only two infinite things are the universe and human stupidity, but he was not sure about the universe.
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It just doesn't matter. We are sitting on one of know one even has a really good guess how many planets. There's no way, from here, to know if the Universe is or isn't infinite. I just don't care.
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There ARE bridges too far to cross. They may have avoided Windows 10 but likely are hung up on Doors 21.
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There was one like this that I loved...
On any planet in which intelligent life is found, the probability that they will explain their existence on a God is 1...
To the original post, even if infinite, it may be the case that intelligence is only on one planet at a time! And I can't wait for Earths turn!
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Flipping a coin on a flat surface almost always results in heads or tails.
But there is a very small possibility that the coin will come to rest on its edge.
However, given a infinite number of flips, the coin will come to rest on its edge an
infinite number of times.
I believe infinity is best thought of as a convenient mathematical construct.
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Quote: infinity is best thought of I try not to think about it too much!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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What is the 'end' of the universe? Is it the most distant star, mote of dust, particle? Of course not, because we can always ask the question, how much nothingness comes after that? That is a question we can grasp.
Does the universe expand outwardly until the very fabric of spacetime dissipates into nothingness, where no energy can exist? Does spacetime just loop back in on itself in a 4D sphere, or saddle?
All this means is that we cannot travel, see or measure anything where there is no spacetime. So in what context does spacetime exist? By what mechanism does spacetime have any meaning? Or is spacetime synonymous with existence? Is there nothing else at all to explain?
This discussion always leads me to the conclusion that the fact that there is anything; matter, spacetime, anything at all, is purely absurd. Our whole existence seems fantastically mythical.
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Look up "Olbers's Paradoxon" (from 1823!) - by this simple question, one finds that there is no good reason why it is infinite.
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Good afternoon to all.
I was wondering, is there a term for the person who's lumbered with the job of trying to merge code changes from one branch to another which hasn't been done in ages and has thousands of changes and conflicts and PAIN? On a bloody FRIDAY?
Tried resolving conflicts in .sln files? It's impossible, even for robots.
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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