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I'm about to wipe my iPhone 11XR something or other I got "free" from Sprint as part of their bundled offering, yada yada. You know the drill. To be honest, I would be completely happy with a flip phone. I use computers, I do not do face time on my phone and the vast majority of my calls/text messages are 2FA. The calls I get are 90% or more spam. The only other useful feature is being able to take a picture before I take something apart. I could do that with a $20 camera.
The cheapest phone I Can find on Amazon is $499. wtf?
Going out to buy lottery tickets. $500 for a phone plus $40/month give or take for service. This is absurd.
Back to shopping.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: The cheapest phone I Can find on Amazon is $499. wtf?
Searching on Amazon for "NUU A23Plus Basic Cell Phone" returns quite a few less than $200. That search string is for a specific one.
charlieg wrote: completely happy with a flip phone
Pretty sure they have issued some new flip phones. Calls and text. Although my first flip phone only did calls.
Searching on Amazon with following produced even cheaper deals than prior one: "Senior Flip Phone Unlocked"
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I got an old S4 Galaxy from son, years ago, had a broken screen that cost me $165 to have fixed and had it until they no longer supported it.
Funny story I went to Wally World to get a protector for it and I asked the associate if they had any. He asked what I had and when I told him he called to the other associate in the store and said; "look you ever seen one of these". 
So I upgraded to a S19 that I bought used online for $200, not sure exact price. I had it for about 4 years and then Verizon offered a free upgrade to an S23, that ended up costing $100 but was a good upgrade. I'll keep it until I die or they stop supporting it.
I'm like you I rarely use the thing, so it doesn't pay for me to spend a bunch of money on one. It was different when I ran my own business, but the S4 served me fine for many years.
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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Samsung Galaxy A20e. < $50. Prepayed, no abo. I use it 99% only as an alarm clock  
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Samsung Galaxy J2 Core (2020)[^]
I like it because it's small and light and it runs a not too old (as of yet) version of Android. (I'm a Win/Android C# developer).
/ravi
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I'm not really an old white guy, but I am phone averse.
I got a little $40 e-moto on prepaid and I liked it fine until updates slowed it down to the point of being unusable after a few years. It was indestructible though.
I now have a $100 Samsung Galaxy A25. I like it okay. Samsung's android extensions can be a bit annoying, like it notifies you a bit more than I'd like, but other than that, the phone is snappy, the camera is nice. It feels well constructed, all of that.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Probably going against the tide here but I'm an old white guy with an iPhone 12. Got it 4 years ago and I'm quite happy with it. I use computers for complicated, work related stuff so I want a phone that, as much as possible, just works: makes phone calls that are sufficiently clear, receives texts and email and takes a few pictures when I'm out in the field. I don't want/care to root my phone, get to alternate stores compile stuff or what not. I still have the old fashioned concept that a phone is (mostly) for phoning.
In the interest of complete disclosure, I also have a Apple family plan that I share with kids. In return they let me play with grand-kids  . If you are going to call me an Apple fanboy, I'm going to say that I also have a Microsoft 365 subscription (also shared with family) so at least I'm not partial to only one big tech company 
Mircea
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My SO found this this morning and thought it worth passing on.
1. Two times a week, we go to a nice restaurant, have a little beverage, good food and companionship. She goes on Tuesdays, I go on Fridays.
2. We also sleep in separate beds. Hers is in California and mine is in Texas.
3. I take my wife everywhere...but she keeps finding her way back.
4. I asked my wife where she wanted to go for our anniversary. "Somewhere I haven't been in a long time!" she said. So I suggested the kitchen.
5. We always hold hands. If I let go, she shops.
6. She has an electric blender, electric toaster and electric bread maker. She said "There are too many gadgets and no place to sit down!" .. So I bought her an electric chair.
7. My wife told me the car wasn't running well because there was water in the carburator. I asked where the car was; she told me "In the lake."
8. She got a mud pack and looked great for two days. Then the mud fell off.
9. She ran after the garbage truck, yelling "Am I too late for the garbage?" .... The driver said "No, jump in!"
10. Remember: Marriage is the number one cause of divorce.
11. I married Miss Right. I just didn't know her first name was Always.
12. I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months. I don't like to interrupt her.
13. The last fight was my fault though. My wife asked "What's on the TV?" I said "Dust!"
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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good comedy requires a bit of truth in it so your audience can identify.
i am not sharing this with my wife.  I miss red
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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charlieg wrote: I miss red
Me too.
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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you youngsters out there - how many of you know who Red Skelton is?
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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so I've never been a fan of stupidity, mine or anyone elses', and Microsoft seems to have staff meetings to escalate theirs.
Enter Apple.
I really don't watch much TV, maybe 1 or 2 football games a year (never soccer) and some ice hockey now and then, but I discovered I can see game re-caps on youtube, so good enough for me. I'm simply not going to pay $75/month for the right to turn off garbage tv. So Spielberg and Hanks FINALLY came out with Masters of the Air which was mostly utter nonsense with the exception of the US Army Airforce crews being slaughtered until the P51 Mustang became available. The German pilots were mean SOBs - no offense intended. So, I subscribed to Apple TV to catch the episodes, and with the last episode, I canceled my subscription. Or so I thought.
Checking credit card statements, they have continued to charge me, and on their web site make it nigh impossible to cancel. Canceled it twice, still being charged. Cannot get anyone to help me - they claim they do, but the charges kept coming. Okay, want to play this game? Created a virtual credit card # with a $1/day max amount, swapped the apple tv <-- this is my mistake here -- to that account #. I also refused the charges on my account. Do you think Apple might contact me? I've had an iPhone for 6+ years, etc. Nope.
My iPhone will no longer allow me access to the app store (all I tried to do was update a free app).
This is why I DESPISE single login. It is 8am on the east coast of America, 6/2/2024. I will now start a gambling pool for when all $hit breaks loose from my wife, older daughter, younger daughter who are all on my account.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Quote: I canceled my subscription. Or so I thought.
1. you can't win
2. you can't break even.
3. you can't get out of the game
So, what's new? 
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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shut up old guy  said from an old guy....
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Yup, these days I shake my head a lot.
Now I understand what my grandfather meant when he said something about a hand basket.
(every hundred years, all new people)
>64
It’s weird being the same age as old people. Live every day like it is your last; one day, it will be.
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File a complaint with the FTC.
The "Restore Online Shoppers' Confidence Act" is supposed to make that easy. The FTC is now attempting to put more rules into place to force companies to make it as easy to cancel as it is to sign up.
If feeling snarky you might also send a letter afterwards to them telling them you have filed a complaint.
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Apparently this is actually a thing. My wife had told me about it.
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The summer Olympics will soon be held in Paris. The government has spent $1.5B cleaning up the Seine so that it can be used for aquatic events. Macron and the mayor of Paris have promised to swim in the river to prove its cleanliness. Therefore, a mass "Defecate in the Seine" event is being organized. Apparently it's going swimmingly.
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Alas, unintended consequences.
"People are a problem." -- The Book.
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Perhaps the government should not have made public the amount spent in this.
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Merde!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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"Vive la France!"
Bear with me here.
Having 4 USARMY soldiers and at least two Marines (all who are not IT and have gone outside the wire, well the 3rd son jumps out of planes - name your altitude) in the family, the French used to be despised or at least disparaged in this household. As for the # of people who have served or are serving, I have lost count. I have an extensive extended family, I quit facebook, I don't do X, and I don't do Instagram, so I have lost count of the great grand children, but I have a lock on the grand kids, so I count them as well.
That said, I came across this letter when two of my sons were in heavy combat: https://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/1wbyiq/american_troops_as_seen_by_a_french_soldier_a/[^]
I don't think this is false, I'm sure "snopes" will disparage it, but I want it to be real. My judgement of the French went up about 10000%. you are pissy, snobbish, down right annoying (I could be describing Americans or drunk British soccer fans - I'm on a roll this morning) but any country that has citizens doing this - hat's off. I also like farmers that revolt. Oh A, Canadian truckers too .
I don't like government as you can tell. we still have crap we're tearing down in Atlanta from 1996. You Frogs, keep it up
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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