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MehGerbil wrote: We hired this contract employee that refuses to do any work. Was he hired at-will?
MehGerbil wrote: He says we've not given him the data he needs. Can that be proven?
MehGerbil wrote: The really annoying thing is that he insists on charging us for 'waisted' time. That doesn't matter, unless your company is actually paying for this time. If that is the case, your options are very limited.
MehGerbil wrote: After the meeting I was going to confront him... This should have already been done. Why not have the confrontation IN the meeting?
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Show me a community that obeys the Ten Commandments and I'll show you a less crowded prison system." - Anonymous
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If you fire his company, you can hire me.
Not only will I graciously do the same job but I'll go through the trouble of not even showing up - for the same fees.
This offer is limited to as long as I can get away with it - so hurry!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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How do you fire a company?
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Fire a Company?
A Popular Option:
Bottles, rags, gasoline, matches, and good throwing arm.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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I didn't think of that option. Good one
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MehGerbil wrote: He says we've not given him the data he needs. So schedule a meeting and ask him what he needs and either [a] give it to him or [b] explain why he doesn't need (or already has) the data.
/ravi
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You should try hiring Nagy. Sounds like he would fit right in.
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Fire, this is why he is contractor.
An employee sells its time but the contractor sells its skill.
Not wasting time whatever the reason is what differentiate him from an employee.
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Your work for charity is an example for all of us.
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Oh come on! You can't be a proper beer drinker unless you give us the name of the beer, the brewery, and the ABV!
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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It was a Winter Warmer @ 4.7%, but FIIK the brewery.
[edit]
4.7 not 3.7, stupid keyboard can't type proper like what I does.
speramus in juniperus
modified 14-Nov-13 10:22am.
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OK, 4.7% sounds more reasonable!
Was it one of these?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Quote: the waisted wasted time. FTFY - or did you mean it was time spent working on your waistline - possibly using the beers you mentioned?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I've a relatively new developer working on modifying an old project.
He has called me over to his office every day this week so that he may ask for advice.
I give this same advice every time:
Divide things up into discrete classes/tables/etc because in the long run you'll find a clear division of responsibilities much easier to manage then some goobered up, over-complicated mess.
I then get an argument on how that would be a great deal of work.
It took me a long time to learn that creating a discrete class for a function is actually the route that is much less work in the long run than trying to ball everything up into some wonder-class that does everything. I don't care if someone wants to do it a different way - the part that makes me want to scream is that after I give the advice I get an argument and an insistence that I bless the mess that he is creating. My advice will be the same tomorrow as it is today - please leave me alone.
It is just a little frustrating is all.
modified 14-Nov-13 9:45am.
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It wouldn't hurt to give an example, work together to start taking out a small piece, or maybe create some class outlines (just names and function declarations without the guts of the code).
If this kids education was anything like mine, it will take the investment of someone else to teach him how to code properly. I get lots of help from other folks, and when I cannot understand how to do what they say, I go away, try, and then come ask again. Usually a 15 minute sit down at the keys can clear up a lot of confusion.
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I've tried several times but there is a resistance to my efforts; hence, the frustration.
I know that it took me several years to really appreciate the importance of some of these things.
Still gets frustrating though.
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"He has called me over to her office" wut?
"No. Do it right."
Sounds like one of those newly graduated programmers with only child syndrome thinking they know something, with a pathological aversion to being told they're wrong.
Screw him. Yell a couple times. Make a comment about big boy pants and 'real work'.
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I'm thinking of changing professions.
I may get into something less frustrating like being a security screener at an airport.
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Bomb squad maybe?
I've been putting together a little machine shop and woodworking shop in my basement (being single has its advantages) for the express purpose of getting the HELL away from programming as a profession.
Sure I'll make almost no money. But maybe I'll stop yelling mock arguments to coworkers that aren't there while I walk down the street alone.
These people are nuts.
Thank God I have this bluetooth headset I don't bother pairing with my phone. People would think I was nuts otherwise.
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That is interesting - I really hope it works out for you.
I find myself wanting to get out of programming because I don't feel like it is a 'craft' in that by the time one learns a language/IDE/etc. it gets tossed out for some new thing. While there are 'craft' like components to it - lessons hard learned and all that - I feel as if the material is too transitional and inconsequential for my liking.
In short, I think a well made end table has more meaning than what I do.
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I love programming. It just seems that in no programming job in the last 25+ years have I actually been allowed to really DO it.
And as much as I love Bob Martin and the Agilistas I draw the line at his assertion that programming is a craft. I do appreciate his drive to bring some kind of professional standards to what we do. But his choice of nomenclature is half a bubble off plumb.
I can make an end grain butcher block cutting board that's 2" thick and never doubt that I've made something.
Twiddling bits? Meh. Notsomuch.
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The best job I ever had was designing, building, programming and maintaining automated production machinery, and it took me a while to understand why.
It was the fact that I could be creative, even pushing my nose into the product design process in order that the finished article could be assembled, tested and packaged reliably and quickly. I could 'play' with things like automated vision systems, interfaces to control circuits, pneumatics, electrical and electronic actuators etc. as well as the metalwork and fabrication.
I loved that job and getting up in the morning to do it was no chore at all.
Ultimately I changed jobs, chasing more money, and ended up doing some development work in larger IT systems but found the lack of creativity, control over the finished product and beaurocracy soul-destroying.
Don't get me wrong, I understand that these aren't easy jobs and someone needs to do them and do them well for big IT infrastructures to work, it just isn't for me, I need to see an end product, to be able to say 'I did that'.
Now I'm even further away from the creative side, in project management and all I can say is it pays well... wonder if I've got enough space in the outbuildings for a workshop?
Andy B
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Head over to lumberjocks.com and watch youtube videos by Izzy Swan.
You'll be glad you did. Izzy's doing a great series on "starting a workshop with $50." he's an awesomely creative furniture builder and nuttier than squirrel droppings.
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There's probably a goobered up, over-complicated mess, somewhere in that old project.
Make him work on that.
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