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If the web page https://tinycircuits.com/products/tinytv-2[^] filling a page in a printed medium, with text, photos (video admittedly makes some problems in print), price and ordering information, ... What would you call it?
I would call it an ad. I see the same text, photos, price and ordering information filling a window on my screen. I still call it an ad. I see no distinction to make me label it otherwise. Of course it could have been published with some irrelevant news story above and below, and TinyCircuits could have paid the web newspaper for presenting the TinyTV ad in the middle of their story, but that doesn't change the nature of the TinyTV stuff. In either case, it is promotional information published for the purpose of making people like you and I by that product. That's what ads are for.
What would you call it?
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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OK. I totally missed the fact that you were referring all the way back to the original post that started this thread. I only went back to my own original response and its series of follow-ups.
There was no nefarious intent here. I honestly thought you were quoting from a link that appeared within that scope.
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I have a problem: If I attach a comment too high in the comment tree, the author of that comment screams out: That comment wasn't meant for me!, ignoring that we are in an open forum were responses are seen by everybody, not just some single poster.
So in attempt to avoid those 'Why do you tell this to me?? responses, I have chosen to add my follow-up comments to leaf nodes, so that no authors of intermediate nodes will be offended by suspecting that my comment directly elates to (and possibly contradicts) their post.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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I always follows up to the message I directly want to respond to, and if I need to bring in something that's no longer directly referenced in the previous post, I'll go back to the original and quote it as part of my response. It generally seems to work well enough.
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Better than my eyesight. I'm happy with my 1080p projector.
There's 4K projectors out there, but I don't have nearly enough 4K content just yet to justify the extra $ they want for them.
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I was watching a (very silly) film last night, and smiled at the following exchange:
Woman: "I don't have a TV".
Man: "I can get you one, a 19 inch model".
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The question begs to be asked - what decade was that movie made in?
That, and TV shows/movies where the use of phones/flip phones/smart phones are a key part of the storyline. They age rather poorly.
Or general gadgetry. I'm reminded of the time Knight Rider first came out on DVD and I started watching a few episodes. Didn't that show look futuristic back then? Today it's laughable, and I'm not just talking about David Hasselhoff's acting.
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Gotcha. So they were very much aware of what was being said, and that was the joke.
One could've gone back a few decades prior and been totally serious with that line.
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Yes, that was one of the few items in the film that was not silly.
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Haven't got one that I watch
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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These devices look like they might be somnething from the secret workshop of @code-witch :)
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In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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I'm sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever. Please try writing it in your native language, and using Google Translate to produce an English version.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Just wanted to toss this out here and ask a question. Long before I earned my EE degree (yes, I know all about motors and other things), my dad was an EE for IBM. His favorite phrase when it was recruiting season was "I can teach an engineer how to program, I cannot teach a programmer how to engineer."
Yeah, maybe a bit bigoted but work with me. This was in the late 70s early 80s, so the term "software engineer" had not been coined yet. At my university, you could get a degree in computer science but that was it. Engineers used punch cards to talk to the IBM. Those other people got to use the terminals  .
So, I'm poking around on dice.com and I come across a job entry for "Senior Firewall Engineer."
wtf
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I agree. Most software is not engineered. Web stuff in particular.
I'm a software developer.
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I use the term lightly - engineer. 120v scares me, 240+ I want to pee. 480 and up? hell no. There is some spooky **** mechanical engineers do as well as civil engineers (other than making targets - google it). Then there comes chemical engineers that I salute, and nukes I just see in the distance as they glow.
I have the degree for an EE. I wrote software most of my life. Sooo, when I started calling myself a sw engineer, my better half slapped me sideways - you are an EE and don't forget it. So, since then I'm an EE but I write software. Mostly embedded but I can do desktop as well. And I respect electricity. 
I still want to know wtf is a firewall engineer. I get the idea, but really?
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I remember "sanitation engineer" was being discussed a few years ago. For a job opening for a janitor.
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It happened a LOT in the UK in the late 80's to mid 90's but back then it wasn't "engineer" that was the thing it was "technician".
I was a Computer Kid of the 1980's UK, Grew up with home computers that where primitive by todays standards, Sinclair ZX80/81, Commodore C16+4, Vic 20 and eventually onto the Acorn Machines, BBC B et al.
Since the age of 7 I've had an aptitude for this kind of stuff, and by the time I got to the later years in my Secondary School, I was effectively teaching the teachers on what the computers they had in the classrooms could do, so they could in turn be better informed what they where "reading from textbooks" to teach others.
As the 90's approached, the MS-DOS PC started to appear in UK homes, and it was a natural fit for me to want to become a "Computer Technician" at the time.
I left school and did my various BTEC's etc before spending a few years in the UK military doing communications stuff.
When I left the forces in late 1993, I came back to a world where EVERYONE was obsessed by being a "Technician" of some kind, this was bizarre to me as the very word "Technician" implies something that is "Technical" or "Technologically Related".
My CV included "Technician" several times as during my BTEC years I had worked part time for a few different companies as a trainee, and companies where salivating over the word in much the same way they salivate over "AI" and such like today.
Looking for a job was insane, trying to filter job listings by subjects I knew and including words like "Technician" was a thankless task, I regularly saw things like:
"Wanted: local pub requires cleanliness technician to maintain pub facilities" (Basically a pub cleaner)
or
"Immediate Start: TV Rental's technical customer sales advisement technician" (Basically a sales person who can talk tech)
It was the same then as it is now, Out of control marketing idiots allowed to get away with devaluing any word or topic they feel like, in order to push more sales.
We've seen a few other terminologies come and go over the years, but now that being an "engineer" of some kind is popular, we are seeing the same thing happen to the word "engineer" and "engineering" as a disciplined profession.
Don't even get me started on the HR and recruitment's use of the terminology!!!
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The one that got me was "sandwich artist". Take a guess where I saw that position advertised.
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