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Collin Jasnoch wrote: Maybe some day they will refer to it as going Developer
I'd send you a t-shirt, but I think you already have one.
What always galls me is their insistence on paving the cowpath by electronically replicating their manual (paper) methods.
I understand that they don't know my job, but they blink at you uncomprehending when you explain that the computer can transcend their manual methods and do something that is a quantum leap over what they've been doing.
I always think of it as that it is part of my job to become an expert at theirs, if only for a day, so I can separate what they are doing from what they want done.
A side rant is how they fail to realize how you can fold the process into individual steps and then wave their hand and say, "You don't have to worry about X, because it only happens every once in a while."
For example at one job, the hardware manager freaked when I explained to him I did not have 60 separate modules to handle the 60 diverters on the conveyor, I had only 1, but in regards to those occasional events, if they happened even once, I had to have code to deal with it. It didn't matter that it was only needed once every million cartons, I still needed to take the time to deal with it. What really caused him to lose it was when it was revealed it didn't matter where a photoeye was located, I just had to change a parameter number to set it's location. He was too used to building rails to place the photoeyes on so their location could be fine tuned.
But then it was truly amusing when we had a bug, he suggested we run the computer slower so it wouldn't happen. His other bright suggestion was to print out all the instructions that were executed so we could find out where it failed. 
You are free to make varoom sounds as you pass your hand over your head repeatedly.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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Suvabrata Roy wrote: Yes, but functionality is the most basic requirement
In (my) reality, prioritizing functionality is probably the key aspect of delivering a software product.
/ravi
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I don't know, software isn't very functional if no attention is paid to the members of that list.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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That is the basic requirement....
Life is all about share and care...
public class Life : ICareable,IShareable
{
// implements yours...
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All the above are handled by one point - Fit For Purpose
Simples.
speramus in juniperus
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Perfect... 
Life is all about share and care...
public class Life : ICareable,IShareable
{
// implements yours...
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0. Bacon
1. Coffee
2. Specification
3. Design
4. Payment
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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Wow... 
Life is all about share and care...
public class Life : ICareable,IShareable
{
// implements yours...
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You get paid? 
speramus in juniperus
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Occasionally! 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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I respectfully request replacing "Bacon" with "Bacon or ham".
/ravi
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Sorry, but...a "Ham Sandwich" is just "lunch".
A "Bacon Butty" is a Meal!
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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OriginalGriff wrote: A "Bacon Butty" is a Meal!
A rasher statement I haven't heard.
/ravi
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Brilliant!
BDF
The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer.
-- PaulowniaK
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I think you forgot pizza 
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If you have enough Bacon, you don't need Pizza!
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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If you're looking at is as a developer all are important on the management side there are only two factors that are important;
1. Cost
2. Delivered on time
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Yes but Cost is not a concern of developer
Life is all about share and care...
public class Life : ICareable,IShareable
{
// implements yours...
}
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Since when? Cost influences everything we do: if it costs too much, it won't get done; it is comes in under budget we might get new toys. Or a pay rise.
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
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OriginalGriff wrote: Or a pay rise.
Wait,...you lost me there.
Did you mean the bonus the execs give themselves?
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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Suvabrata Roy wrote: Cost is not a concern of developer
One may say that is why there are so many failed projects - especially in Defence.
Cost matters a great deal if you are self employed and working to a quote.
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
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And I would add:
Does what it is supposed to.
Peter Wasser
Art is making something out of nothing and selling it.
Frank Zappa
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Finally a reasonable answer 
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