|
Well, Daniel, another perspective might be: you only get "mature" by being forced to face the tragic consequences of your immature acts.
It worked for me 
cheers, Bill
«Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.» Benjamin Franklin
|
|
|
|
|
BillWoodruff wrote: you only get "mature" by being forced to face the tragic consequences of your immature acts.
I agree. That does not stop me from expressing my horror at the objectification of people implied by this app. I can and have thrown away useless possessions without a second thought; I would not dream of doing so to a person.
It is a sign of the degeneracy of our times that the "Dear John" letter has gone mainstream.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
|
|
|
|
|
Daniel Pfeffer wrote: That does not stop me from expressing my horror at the objectification of people implied by this app
That is a fascinating statement, and a remarkable extrapolation from my words. You may have given me an idea for a story, thanks !
Forty years ago, prior to my enslavement to the Goddess Techne, someone might have been paying moi US $50 an hour (good money, back then), to explore the meaning, and emotional context, of that. And, yes, people forty years ago were as concerned about the de-personalization of their experience as they have been since homo sap took its "great leap forward" through the virus of language.
"... on the historical scale, the damages wrought by individual violence for selfish motives are insignificant compared to the holocausts resulting from self-transcending devotion to collectively shared belief-systems. It is derived from primitive identification instead of mature social integration; it entails the partial surrender of personal responsibility and produces the quasi-hypnotic phenomena of group-psychology." Arthur Koestler "The Ghost in the Machine" 1967 By the way, for my money, the best descriptions of de-personalization in the modern sense are found in the horrific novel by Brett Easton Ellis, "American Pyscho," published 2000. But, Dante, Nabokov, Kafka, and Hesse, can get you there, too.
cheers, Bill
«Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.» Benjamin Franklin
|
|
|
|
|
BillWoodruff wrote: That is a fascinating statement, and a remarkable extrapolation from my words. You may have given me an idea for a story, thanks !
You're welcome!
BillWoodruff wrote: Forty years ago, prior to my enslavement to the Goddess Techne, someone might have been paying moi US $50 an hour (good money, back then), to explore the meaning, and emotional context, of that.
I'd have been wasting your time (and my money).
All I meant was that the users of such an App apparently see people as mere objects, to be used and disposed of. I would think (hope?) that one would have outgrown such an attitude by the time one is old enough to have a relationship.
Humans should never be treated as mere objects. Recent history is too full of horrific examples of what happens when this principle is forgotten.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
|
|
|
|
|
Hi Daniel,
Excuse me, I didn't mean my words as any kind of riposte, or provocation.
The paradox I see (experience) is that without "objectification" we would be functionally insane (or enlightened ?) in the sense that intimacy is inversely proportional to exclusion.
I often wonder, when thinking about my life now, if the "intimacy" I experience with people I get to know on-line only is illusory; I don't think it is ... but, take into account the only place that is happening, for me, is CodeProject (no FaceBook, Twitter, Linked-In, etc. for this old flea) ... I do think on-line intimacy is qualitatively different from intimacy in the context of frequent social interaction and exchange, but, I can't say I can describe that (hypothetical) difference clearly ...
For me, a week may go by where I only interact, in person, with local people who do not speak English (my mastery of Thai is sufficient); I find the fact they are "grounded," not lost in digital self-absorption, delightful.
If I should have been lucky enough to have a client forty-years ago, like you, I am sure I would have offered you a handsome discount, and, after one "session" declined payment, saying to you: "you already know what you need to know"
Happy New Year, Bill
«Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.» Benjamin Franklin
|
|
|
|
|
|
That's a remarkably eloquent reply, for you.
«Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.» Benjamin Franklin
|
|
|
|
|
According to renowned technology investor and internet pioneer Marc Andreessen. In 10 years, he predicts mobile phones themselves could disappear. Even the chips will have chips implanted in them!
|
|
|
|
|
Kent Sharkey wrote: Even the chips will have chips implanted in them!
Recursive or fractal implantation ? 
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
|
|
|
|
|
It's chips all the way down. 
Even on the turtles.
TTFN - Kent
|
|
|
|
|
Kent Sharkey wrote: Even on the turtles.
I thought turtles were already equipped with GPS tracking ships.
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
|
|
|
|
|
Hey everybody! Marc's got eggnog! ![Jig | [Dance]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/jig.gif)
|
|
|
|
|
Windows 10 version 1511 build 10586.36/Cumulative Update 6 may be the worst Win10 patch yet. It's like they've stopped even trying...
|
|
|
|
|
WX may be the worst patch for any other version of windows. 
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
|
|
|
|
|
What’s more important is to focus on what you can build with the help of any programming languages. It's all just 1s and 0s
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I've always meant to try Algol...
|
|
|
|
|
PIEBALDconsult wrote: I've always meant to try Algol
Start at the beginning I always say.
That's why I started with Aardvark++.
|
|
|
|
|
I prefer the beginning chronologically, not alphabetically.
|
|
|
|
|
PIEBALDconsult wrote: I prefer the beginning chronologically
That's a great point. 
You are right, of course.
I am going back and learning Fortran, then on to modern stuff like LISP and COBOL. 
|
|
|
|
|
Submit a Unity Game to the Windows Store in the next few weeks for a chance of winning $25,000. There are three cash prizes and Unity Pro licences will be awarded for "Honorable Mentions". Something for you to do during the holiday downtime
|
|
|
|
|
There has been a steady trickle of Universal Windows Platform apps arriving in the Windows Store, as of late. Can Microsoft keep the developer momentum going? "Living in the limelight, the universal dream"
|
|
|
|
|
The Beatles - the popular British rock band that's considered among the most influential acts in music history - are finally coming to the world's biggest music streaming services. I think they've been available on vinyl for a while
|
|
|
|
|
Kent Sharkey wrote: I think they've been available on vinyl for a while
Transmiting vinyl over ethernet and internet is still a little bit complicated 
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
|
|
|
|
General 
News 
Suggestion 
Question 
Bug 
Answer 
Joke 
Praise 
Rant 
Admin 
Submit an article or tip
