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A bit to technical for me but shouldn't the link say LWN writes instead of LWN wrotes? Just being a little anal today.
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In less than a week Microsoft will formally end support for versions 4.0, 4.5, and 4.5.1 of the .NET Framework. Users should upgrade to a later version such as the slightly incompatible .NET 4.5.2. I'm sure if you submit your bugs now, they'll be fixed in time
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There's support?
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Wasn't .NET Microsoft's way of implementing Write Once Run Everywhere? I guess they forgot the word Hopefully somewhere then...
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I thought they ended support shortly after releasing those versions, which begs the question - why wasn't 4.5.2 on that list?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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From the horses mouth (or something attached to that bit of plumbing anyway)[^]
Quote: .NET Framework is a component of the Windows OS. Support for .NET 4.5.2 follows the support lifecycle policy of the operating system it is installed on.
Since MS's documentation generally leaves something to be desired, looking in wikipedia[^], the framework versions tied to OS releases (and blessed with long support as a result) are 3.5 (Win7, 8, 10), 4.5.x (win 8) and 4.6.x (win10). The only anomaly I see is that either 3.0 should still be supported for one more year because of Vista, or 4.5.x should've been deprecated since 4.6 is an in place replacement for 4.5. I suppose the larger number of breaking changes between 4.5 and 4.6 vs 3.0 to 3.5 (IIRC 3.5 just added a bunch of new APIs) could be the explanation. OTOH Changing support policies over the years could be a factor as well.
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--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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My point was that after each release, they end support of that release because they're working on a new version.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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That doesn't mean they won't release patches and bugfixes through Windows Update until the OS's expiration date.
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You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Let’s assume that we’ve solved the problems of sensors and muscles and all the rest, and accept that the uploaded brain won’t truly reflect our mind. "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents."
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Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Twitter, and Yahoo! have all said the UK government's surveillance plans could have "far reaching implications" around the world and parts of it are a "step in the wrong direction." I'm so glad these companies are standing up against invasion of privacy and monitoring
Anyone seen my eyes? They've rolled too far away.
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I was reading about this just this morning, and agree that it's a good thing that such large companies are taking a stand. The government may think they can walk all over average Joe, but they may think twice about trying to walk all over these companies.
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Dominic Burford wrote: The government may think they can walk all over average Joe No that is the domain of the said big companies who are probably pissed that the Govt is horning in on their territory.
If you think this is altruistic on the part of these companies I have a great piece of land for sale just west of Alice Springs.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I'll swap it for London Bridge
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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I thought the yanks already got that one!!!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I have no idea what point what you thought I was making, and no idea why you'r trying to sell me some land in Alice Springs.
My point was.......the government may not listen to what the average citizen has to say on matters of privacy, but they may be forced to listen to what large corporations have to say on privacy.
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My point is that the large corporation are not doing it to benefit the average Joe, they are defending territory that they already have staked out.
The land is an excellent opportunity, warm all year round, no flooding, plenty of privacy, a bargain!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: The land is an excellent opportunity, warm all year round, no flooding, plenty of privacy, a bargain!
Isn't the land west of Alice Springs part of a national park?
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
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Daniel Pfeffer wrote: Isn't the land west of Alice Springs part of a national park Of course, that is what guarantees your privacy and security as you will have NP rangers looking out for your property.
Alternatively we have a lovely lake front[^] block available
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: NP rangers looking out forto evict you from your property.
FTFY
As for the lakeside property, I seem to remember reading about seasonal floods in the area...
Perhaps you should switch from software to real estate development.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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The next time a software maker tells you to update your favorite computer application immediately to fix serious defects or patch gaping security holes, don't lose faith. Help is on the way. Good luck with that
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I too have some hopeless ideas about software...Can I get a $10 million founding too?
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Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Yeah, I'll believe that when they launch their campaign without any bugs.
Bug-Free Software v1.24.
modified 7-Jan-16 16:12pm.
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They're going to encourage everyone to go back to chisels and granite...
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Most (if not all) of the methods that they describe in the article are already being used. I remember going to a lecture many years ago by a software engineer who worked in the Ministry of Defence (in the UK) and the processes and methods that they employ are on a completely different playing field to anything else I have come across. They start from Z specifications where they mathematically prove their design works, then they move onto developing the software using these models to cross check their code. They test their code on the same hardware that will be used in production.
Where there is a real risk of fatalities from software failure, we have stringent processes and methods already. Every navigation system in an aeroplane, life support machine in a hospital or nuclear reactor goes through a similar process.
These processes are incredibly expensive and time consuming, and so are reserved for applications that truly demand them.
I don't think the intention should be to re-invent the wheel and propose new processes for ensuring high quality (as we already have them) but to reduce the costs that they impose so that they are accessible to a greater number of industries and domains.
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In other news, I've just discovered dry water and fat-free lard.
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