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I am building a program under Visual C++ 6.0, which I will sell to a industrial customer (a factory). I am using an illegal version of the Visual Studio IDE - a cracked copy.
I would like to ask if there is any way for the authorities to know that I used an illegal copy of VS. Say by examining the executable files? Does VC++ add any signature to all executables it builds?
If you have any idea, please post it...
"Needless redundancy is the hobgoblin of software engineering." - Peter Darnell
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Vladimir Georgiev wrote:
I would like to ask if there is any way for the authorities to know that I used an illegal copy of VS.
There has not been a way until now that you have admitted software piracy
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
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microsoft says there is no need for a licence for the programs that you built and compile in visual studio. so i guess that it won't compile some info about the visual studio version, and even if it does, it's your program, so they have no rights.
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I believe there is compiler information (ID, Ver) stored in every executable linked/compiled with VC.
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Why is it right that you should make money from selling software that you wrote, but you will not pay Microsoft for the software they wrote, that you used??
You are the lowest form of thief: one who cannot even see that he is stealing. I despise you. Go away.
Name: Vladimir Dimitrov Georgiev
Country: Bulgaria
Phone: 03426878
City: Pazardjik
Cell Phone: +35988563244
Address: 8, Vasil Levski street 7th ap. 4th floor
E-Mail: vdg990@aubg.bg
Perhaps foolish to admit piracy and make it so very easy to work out who you are. You score 0/10.
#include <beer.h>
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what gives you the right to judge him like this and publish his personal info? your right that it is not cool of him, but exposing his personal info isn't right either...
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Its on his website, which his profile links to. I make no apologies; he's a criminal.
And yes I judge him, based on his own admissions, the laws of pretty much any country in the world, and my own personal set of morals.#
What gives you the right to judge what I do? (this could get silly now).
#include <beer.h>
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Jon Hulatt wrote:
(this could get silly now).
lol...
yeah, your right..... but you have to renember, most people don't have the luxories that we have. And anyway, wenn selling programs... someone will trace you if its legal or not, so if he hasn't got a licence now, he will...
peace
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These people should be exposed, so it is right thing to do. If he does not have money for the compiler or does not want to pay for it, there is always GNU compiler and tools. This guy choose to stile the version.
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Probably not, but telling everyone here that you are using illegal software (and making a profit from it) isn't a particularly smart move
[edit] I see that you're a student. Come on! a student license version of visual studio is rediculously cheap - you really have no excuse [/edit]
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Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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benjymous wrote:
Come on! a student license version of visual studio is rediculously cheap - you really have no excuse
But then he is from bulgaria.
That is where the land is worked with a horse and a plogh (No joke! My friend has been there recently). Probably the country which has suffered most from the decay of the Soviet Empire (along with Romania).
The 200 US-Dollars for VC.NET-student might well be half a years work in that country.
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
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Does not having much money make theft right? It is ok for a tramp to mug an old granny?
#include <beer.h>
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Jon Hulatt wrote:
Does not having much money make theft right?
Right? No. Certainly not.
But it shows a motivation for SW piracy. A motivation other than being a bored middle class kid that simply 'crackz' for fun.
And comparing Software-Godzilla Microsoft with an old granny is, well...way off
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
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Jon, I am not buying a $500 IDE for building a $300 project...
As you already know, I am a student yet. I have a whole bunch of academic work to do, plus this project that came up... There may be a while until I get another offer like this. That is why I am not willing to buy the VS software for this single (for now) program...
As for sonfware piracy, I totally agree with you that everyone must pay for what she uses. But in a country like Bulgaria, where everybody uses illegal software, I will not be the only fool to use legal one...
PS: Do you think, I being a programmer, am not afraid of illicit use of software myself?
"Needless redundancy is the hobgoblin of software engineering." - Peter Darnell
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If the project is only work $300, and you can't afford to buy VS, then why not use free tools, like all the GNU stuff?
#include <beer.h>
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Is there a GUI tool that will provide the functionality, language syntax of VC++ and appearance of a Windows GUI (and run under Windows)?
"Needless redundancy is the hobgoblin of software engineering." - Peter Darnell
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Vladimir Georgiev wrote:
I am not buying a $500 IDE for building a $300 project
try ebay or find a student version.
-c
When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.
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That is why I mentioned the student license.
In the UK you used to be able to get a full version of Visual Studio 6 for about £70 ($100US ish) - I.e. a huge saving from what it normally costs
Amazon doesn't seem to have student licence versions any more, but then they only seem to sell .NET stuff. I'm sure if you ask one of your teachers there should be someone who can tell you what a student licence copy would cost you
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you associate micro.... with an old granny????
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hi,
can someone tell me how to setup scrollbars. i simply want to make a CListBox that i manually update with data(it's not allowed to use it's own array). If i want to do something like this i need to read the scrollbar and set the scrollbar, but how?
i hope you get what i mean?
greetz,
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Try putting a scroll bar on the List box, and use SetCurSel and GetCurSel methods. This will scroll automatically to the selection you want. Hope it helps...
"Needless redundancy is the hobgoblin of software engineering." - Peter Darnell
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thats only possible with a ListBox that already contains the info. i think i explaint it wrong.
i have a linked-list with about 2000 records. if i load all these record into the CListBox i get 2 problems:
1. it takes too long to load.
2. it takes too much memory.
So this would be the solution:
The listbox get's filled with the first 10 records. These records are shown. Once the user wants to see (for example) record 500 till 510, the listbox is updated with those 10 records(record 500 - 510). It seems like the ListBox contains all those 2000 records but in fact it only contains 10 records and keeps updating them(like a terminal).
In order to know witch selection must be shown i need to read the ScrollList of the ListBox(or make one myself). I also have to virtually make the ScrollList(make it seem like there are 2000 records in the list), but i have no clue how to do this. Can somebody tell me this?
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Sounds like you need to use a ListControl with ownerData (you can ste in resources). This lets you populate it only with the items that need to be shown at any given time.
I have never done it myself, so beyound that I can;t be any extra help. Possibly examples of this in the ListControl section here at CP.
Roger Allen
Sonork 100.10016
Were you different as a kid? Did you ever say "Ooohhh, shiny red" even once? - Paul Watson 11-February-2003
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yes, thats what i need, but i've searched in the articles but the only thing i can find is pushbuttons for scrolling up and down in a CListBox, well for me thats the easy way out but not what i want.
thanks for your help, i'll have to find another solution.
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hi guys,
this is not strictly a programming question but i tought it is better to post it here than in the Lounge.
log files created by dr. watson on my machine do not contain information about loaded dlls, i.e. loaded module list is displayed (see block beginning with "(00400000 - 00414000)"), but there is no name displayed next to it.
anybody have an idea what might be the reason?
thanks
Application exception occurred:
App: (pid=1968)
When: 2/25/2003 @ 14:10:01.991
Exception number: c0000005 (access violation)<br>
*----> System Information <----*
Computer Name: NCZAG010
User Name: NC1
Number of Processors: 1
Processor Type: x86 Family 6 Model 8 Stepping 3
Windows 2000 Version: 5.0
Current Build: 2195
Service Pack: 2
Current Type: Uniprocessor Free
Registered Owner: Authorized User<br>
*----> Task List <----*
0 Idle.exe
8 System.exe
......
1644 VCSPAWN.exe
1968 test2.exe
1780 DRWTSN32.exe
0 _Total.exe <br>
(00400000 - 00414000)
(77F80000 - 77FFB000)
(77E80000 - 77F35000)<br>
State Dump for Thread Id 0x550
.......
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