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Installing a new Hard drive

2-Jul-02 2:10

Hi,

First of all you must be thinking about SMTP service (note M).

There is no such service that is part of Win2k, but SMTP protocol is very straight forward. Sorry I don't know much about ASP, however here is a list of smtp commands:

Connect to your ISP mail server on port 25.

execute the following commands:

MAIL FROM: email@domain.com
RCPT TO: recipient@domain.com
DATA
email message

.
QUIT

Remeber a "." before QUIT is needed so that your e-mail will be accepted for delivery and each time a command is entered a CR/LF (done by pressing enter key) will need to be send to the SMTP server.

Regards,
Venet.

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Re: SNTP Service

[James Pullicino]2-Jul-02 3:22

[James Pullicino]

2-Jul-02 3:22

Venet wrote:
There is no such service that is part of Win2k, but SMTP protocol is very straight forward. Sorry I don't know much about ASP, however here is a list of smtp commands:

Yes there is. Its the IIS SMTP Service. Comes with Win2k.

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Re: SNTP Service

Philip Patrick2-Jul-02 4:47

Philip Patrick

2-Jul-02 4:47

Yeah, I meant SMTP, sorry Smile | :)

There is such service as a part of IIS on Win2k, and I'm tryng to send e-mail using CDO library, but whatever I do, it fails Frown | :(

Anyway, thanx I'll try to do it as you suggested too Smile | :)

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w2000 task-bar

30-Jun-02 21:43

hi what do you do with unfunctional w2000 actual-program switching by clicking into taskbar to program's rectangle?
alt-tab works quite fine but mouse click - with debugger running - does not, it just "selected it" into task-bar but that's all
repeatable with more machines
good old nt4
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30-Jun-02 2:18

Hi all,
Sorry in advance if the question doesn't belong to this mailing list.

I have two machines, one with winXP P4, 20 GB HD and the other with winME P3, 20 GB HD.

I want to add one more hard disk 40 GB to both machines.

Now my question is how to do this?

Further, all my programs including OS reside on "C:" (20 GB) what I want is to make the new
hard disk with 40 GB as "C:" and move all files and program residing on old "C:" to
new one with 40 GB.

How to achive this?

Any help in this regard will be appreciated.

thanks in advance
regards

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Giles30-Jun-02 3:40

Giles

30-Jun-02 3:40

Do you have a home Network, if so then it will make things much easier, as you can use one machine as a temporary file server to store all you data.

Generally you will want to install the new disk as the system drive as newer drives are normally faster.

As for moving your programs over, you will on the whole (Paint Shop Pro does not seem to mind) not be able to just copy and paste the programs from the old to the new drive because of all the application settings and dll/com registrations in the registry not being on the new install.

Personnally, copy all your data e.g. My Documents, IE favorites etc and do a clean reinstall of the system.

You may find it useful to backup your NT account folder as well, not that you will be able to copy this back, but just that there may be some useful files that store personal data of some sort. e.g. Outlook Email Databases.

If this not an option, then some kind of system backup restor utility like partition magic should be able to help out, but backing up your entire c drive as a single image, but you will need a few blank CD's from what I can tell.

Finally you are going to have to think about the jumper setting on the drives setting a slave/master config. Most manufacturers will tell you how on their support sites e.g. here [New Window].

Mike Nordell30-Jun-02 3:57

Mike Nordell

30-Jun-02 3:57

Let's call your current installation partition of the OS A, the "rescue" one B, and the one you finally want to become your boot partition C (note that in MS terminlogy "boot" and "system" is so mixed up you might get ideas of where crack was first invented).

Install the new HD.

Partition and format it to your hearts delight.

Install another XP as "rescue" on its own partition. Make the smallest installation you can. This is B.

Reboot, starting your newly installed "rescue" OS B. This is needed since the original OS (A) keeps some of its vital files locked down so hard you can't even copy them.

Copy only the files in the root directory from A to C (on the new drive, and make sure it's a "primary" partition and that it's made Active) first. This might not be needed anymore, but it can't hurt (to place the system vital files in the beginning of the partition).

Copy all the other stuff from A to C (everything but the root-dir that is already copied).

Posibly fiddle with your boot.ini on the new-"C:"-to-be if you changed partition-order or something.

Shut down. Don't remove any partitions yet!

Switch the drives so the 40GB takes the place of the old drive (switch master/slave and/or swithing cable, depending on how you did it).

Make sure your computers BIOS recongnize the "new" (40GB) drive as the first drive. Boot.

At this point you _should_ be running your old OS installation, but off the new drive. You however have to verify this yourself (by whatever means you can come to think of - different filesystem labels is usually enough).

Now, when you have verified that your "old" OS boots from the new drive, shut down, remove the old drive and once again verify that everything boots up as expected.

Once this is done, reinsert the old drive, start up again, remove that old partition from the old drive and do what it whatever you like.

Michael Dunn30-Jun-02 6:32

Michael Dunn

30-Jun-02 6:32

Hook up the new hard drive in the computer, format & partition it, then to copy all the files, open a command prompt and do xcopy C:\*.* D:\ /h /e /c /k /y. That should copy everything except the swap file, which is OK 'cause that'll get recreated anyway. Shut down, hook up the new drive as primary master and you're set.
There are also commercial programs like Ghost that can do the copying as well.

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What exactly does scandisk do?

sagmam8-Jul-02 21:27

sagmam

8-Jul-02 21:27

Use an imaging utility like Ghost, to store your system's partition (drive C Smile | :)

onto some accessible share on a computer.
Afterwards, go to the other computer, put the new HD inside, and boot it with a network-enabled boot diskette. Connect to the share where your HD's image is, and dump it on the new HD. Ghost will compensate for any size diffs of the HD's. You can ask Ghost to enlarge the partition size as it dumps the image on the disk.

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Nnamdi Onyeyiri28-Jun-02 11:05

Nnamdi Onyeyiri

28-Jun-02 11:05

i was just wondering what exactly does the scan disk program do? does anyone know?

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Re: What exactly does scandisk do?

Giles30-Jun-02 3:54

Giles

30-Jun-02 3:54

A few things. It checks the directory structures to make sure there are no circular references, two files marked as being stored in the same location or similar errors like folders with files that do not exist. Basically for corrupted items in the main file system structures. This is normally checked quite quickly.

Then it moves on the the actually disc surfaces which are the individual hard disc platters. It scans each track on the platters for bad bits/bytes. Basically say it wants to right a bit as 1 rather than 0, but the actual disc surface is damaged/faulty though wear then it may try to write the element as a 1, but it remains as a 0. This could lead to bad data, so it can check for these, and remember to not use them in future.

Make sense? Check out the Storage Review reference section [New Window].

Hope this helps,

Giles

Re: What exactly does scandisk do?

sagmam8-Jul-02 21:31

sagmam

8-Jul-02 21:31

It also checks for lost clusters, which usually happen when an abnormal shutdown has occured. These are areas on the disk that are reported as occupied by files, but they're actually not associated with any files. They simply take up room on the HD - room that you cannot use for your own files - unless you get rid of those clusters using scandisk.

In some operating systems like Windows NT-based, lost clusters are reduced to a minimum by making sure that any IO operation, made by the system, must report its completion to the operating system, or it will be canceled and rolled-back at boot time.

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NT Server and Sharing Internet

Tony Fontenot27-Jun-02 8:00

Tony Fontenot

27-Jun-02 8:00

Hi all,

I am trying to figure out if I can have a box with NTServer share my DSL connection to the rest of my computers. Basically, I have 5 static IP addresses but I have many more computers that need to be on the network and on the internet. So without having to buy more IP addresses, I figured I would ask here to see if the NTServer box can have the only Static IP address and have all the other computers share the internet and the network trough the NTServer box. Can someone please give me the steps on how to do this, or direct me to a wedsite that can guide me through it.

Thanks in advance.

P.S. I am new at all this network stuff, so any help is appreciated.

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Venet28-Jun-02 2:28

28-Jun-02 2:28

Yes that's possible.

There is a technique called NAT (Network Address Translation) which is implemented at the router level.

Basically what this does is that enables you to have one IP address visible on the Internet and have all other IP addresses private, so when a packet from outside comes into network your router will figure it out for what machine is destined. (i.e. address translation).

Whenever you go to access some external website, your IP will be the same, regardless of what machine you use.

This has the advantage as you can add much more machines to your intranet.

Regards,
Venet.

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Alexandru Savescu28-Jun-02 8:34

Alexandru Savescu

28-Jun-02 8:34

Have you tried using MSProxy server on the server and MSProxy client on the workstations?

Best regards,
Alexandru Savescu

Venet29-Jun-02 4:00

29-Jun-02 4:00

Alexpro wrote:
Have you tried using MSProxy server on the server and MSProxy client on the workstations?

But, does that have limitations, in sense that each workstation will need to have its own public IP address, therefore need to buy more IP addresses?

Regards,
Venet.

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Alexandru Savescu29-Jun-02 22:22

Alexandru Savescu

29-Jun-02 22:22

Venet wrote:
But, does that have limitations, in sense that each workstation will need to have its own public IP address, therefore need to buy more IP addresses?

No, each workstation will have a private address (192.168.0.x) and the server will have the only public address. Or at least this is how we used it then.

Best regards,
Alexandru Savescu

Venet30-Jun-02 4:32

30-Jun-02 4:32

I always thought Address Translation from Public IP to a private one (10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x) is done at the router level, not at the application level.

Do you have a router as well on your network that does address translation?

Regards,
Venet.

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