Web Development

Paul Watson13-Sep-02 4:44

13-Sep-02 4:44

Rickard Andersson wrote:
This error can be caused by a virtual directory not being configured as an application in IIS.

Another irritating thing about ASP.NET. With ASP you just copied the file and it ran, with ASP.NET you have to maintain the integrity of the whole assembly and a whole lot of other setup tasks.

Basically this is what you need to do: You need to get Brinkster to make the IIS Virtual Directory in which your web.config file lies an Application. This can be done in IIS itself (right click virtual dir, click Create Application.)

If Brinkster won't do this for you (which they probably won't) then you need to locate your web.config file in an application folder, not just a normal folder. Bottom line is web.config must be in a virtual dir which is an IIS Application. Very bizarre but that is the deal unfortunatley.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Paul Riley13-Sep-02 5:39

Paul Riley

13-Sep-02 5:39

Paul Watson wrote:
If Brinkster won't do this for you (which they probably won't)

Brinkster fixed this problem for me, about 15 minutes after I sent the mail. They're pretty damned approachable to be honest, don't underestimate them.

Paul

Paul Watson13-Sep-02 5:43

13-Sep-02 5:43

Paul Riley wrote:
don't underestimate them.

Well then I stand corrected, and pleased to be so. I really did not expect a free hosting service to be that responsive. GeoCities would just laugh at you and even some paid-for hosters would take days to do it and charge you for the work done (they charge by the hour of course, even though it takes only 5 minutes to do.)

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Rickard Andersson²⁰13-Sep-02 7:51

13-Sep-02 7:51

Wohoo!!
Then I just have to e-mail them right now and tell them!

Thank you!

Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing
C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN!
UIN: 50302279
E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu
Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

Rickard Andersson²⁰13-Sep-02 8:23

13-Sep-02 8:23

This is my response from Brinkster:

<br />
Hello,<br />
Unfortunately, some of the General and General SE accounts have more difficulty than others.  There are differences in the way the General solutions are configured than the Premium X4, but no difference between the General and General SE.<br />
<br />
The Premium x4 accounts do not experience this difficulty.<br />
<br />
We have been working with Microsoft for a solution this, but this has not been <br />
resolved at this time.<br />
<br />
All we can recommend at this time is that you follow the FAQ's at http://www.brinkster.com/GeneraldotNETFAQs.asp as well as the following steps;<br />
<br />
VS.NET UPLOADS<br />
You can upload to your account via Visual Studio.Net by doing the following:<br />
 <br />
1- Load the Visual Studio start page (at Visual Studio start-up)<br />
2- In the menu to left, click "Web Hosting"<br />
3- Then, click the "Additional Providers" tab<br />
4- Then, click "Upload directly to your account"<br />
5- Finally, enter your Brinkster Account User Name and Account Password<br />
<br />
Note that if you are connecting to the Internet via a proxy server or firewall configuration, you may experience problems uploading via Visual Studio .Net.  This is beyond our control and you or your ISP will need to configure your firewall or proxy server settings appropriately in order for you to use the feature.<br />
<br />
<br />
VS .NET UPLOAD FILE STRUCTURE ISSUES:<br />
The upload feature from within Visual Studio uploads projects the way that Microsoft creates them (each in to it's own folder).  This is by default as Microsoft has set it up, and not able to be changed by us.<br />
 <br />
To remedy this issue you have two choices:<br />
1. You can use the Visual Studio .NET upload facility, then create a default.htm (or .aspx) file that simply redirects visitors who type in just your domain name to the exact file you want them to go to (www.YourDomain.com/YourProject/default.htm).<br />
 <br />
2. You can use FTP and put the files and folders in exactly the places you want them.<br />
<br />
<br />
Because the General and General SE accounts are free or low cost alternatives to Premium hosting, they are more restrictive.  Such programs could not exist for developers if there were fewer restriction due to the costs involved.<br />
<br />
If you are unable to connect to a General or General SE account with Visual Studio .NET; In the short term the only alternative is to open or upgrade to a Premium account where these issues do not exist.  In the long term it is an issue that we continue to work toward a solution, but at the moment remains unresolved.<br />

grrr!!!!
I have to find another FREE ASP.NET hosting somewhere I think!! Mad | :mad:

Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing
C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN!
UIN: 50302279
E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu
Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

Rickard Andersson²⁰13-Sep-02 9:16

13-Sep-02 9:16

Wooooooohooooo!!!!!!!

I found a FREE .NET hosting site and my "Log in" ASP.NET code worked as it should do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM SOOOOO HAPPY NOW!!!

Brinkster you suck!!!! Poke tongue | ;-P

here is the URL to that HOSTING service: www.dotnetplayground.com[^]

Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing
C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN!
UIN: 50302279
E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu
Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

Paul Riley13-Sep-02 9:57

Paul Riley

13-Sep-02 9:57

OUCH!

Really sorry about that Rickard. I've been using their Premium Accounts since way before .NET ever happened. It never occured to me that it might be different on a General Account. Blush | :O

I like Brinkster Premium accounts because they're incredibly cheap for a service with very few restrictions, very high responsiveness and a pretty damned solid service (largely because they charge for lots of extras that I don't need).

I have three accounts at the moment Big Grin | :-D

, but of course they're not for everybody. I'm glad you found a good free service.

Apologies again.

Paul

Rickard Andersson²⁰13-Sep-02 23:42

13-Sep-02 23:42

Well I think I'm sorry too...

But I've found my free .NET hosting account now and my forms auth... works for me!

Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing
C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN!
UIN: 50302279
E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu
Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

Andy Smith13-Sep-02 8:32

Andy Smith

13-Sep-02 8:32

this is NOT a limitation of asp.net, but a limitation of visual studio.
asp.net supports two models. the all-in-one-page model which asp uses, and the new code-behind model.
asp.net allows you to choose this on a per-file basis.

however, visual studio is designed ONLY for the code behind model, and there's no way around it.

Microsoft Asp.net Web Matrix, on the other hand, supports the all-in-one model, and still has a great page designer. It doesn't have intellisense on your code tho. It's available free on www.asp.net

Paul Watson14-Sep-02 0:25

.aspx files won't work on my server!!! Why?

14-Sep-02 0:25

Andy Smith wrote:
however, visual studio is designed ONLY for the code behind model, and there's no way around it.

I have to disagree. Just the other day I was teaching an ASP developer the basics of ASP.NET and created an ASPX page without a codebehind file. VS.NET did not complain and nor did ASP.NET running on IIS. You don't have to use codebehind, it is just recommended.

Andy Smith wrote:
It doesn't have intellisense on your code tho.

Ouch, I have to say that damns the Web Matrix in my eyes. Intellisense is a great invention.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

LukeV13-Sep-02 3:01

13-Sep-02 3:01

I installed VS .Net and I, while the installation occured, remember reading that it was updating IIS and FrontPage. Now, I tried to test ASP.Net by creating a small project and when I try to run the .aspx file (localhost/somefile.aspx) it won't recognize the code and the page will be blank! A view source shows me that the code is actually there. ASP does work however.

Is there something that went wrong with the installation or I just need to set something up to enable ASP.Net???

Thanks!

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LukeV13-Sep-02 4:50

13-Sep-02 4:50

Come on! Somebody knows this!!! Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

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Paul Watson13-Sep-02 5:58

13-Sep-02 5:58

LukeV wrote:
Come on! Somebody knows this!!!

Get back to me on the following:
- Open IIS
- Go to the default web site
- Right click on it
- Click properties
- Click the Home Directory tab
- Click the Configuration button
- Check in the list for .aspx

If it is there then I do not know why your system is not working. If it is not there, then you need to re-install ASP.NET onto your system (or alternatively you can re-map all the configurations but there is about 50 and they are a pain to do.)

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

LukeV13-Sep-02 6:13

13-Sep-02 6:13

running C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.0.3705\aspnet_regiis.exe -i fixed my problem... Smile | :)

But thanks for your reply!

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Paul Watson13-Sep-02 6:33

13-Sep-02 6:33

LukeV wrote:
running C:\WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v1.0.3705\aspnet_regiis.exe -i fixed my problem

Blush | :O

forgot about that little utility, very handy (and I only found out about it AFTER having re-configged my IIS box, which was very annoying lol.)

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

LukeV13-Sep-02 6:37

13-Sep-02 6:37

Sure Paul, you just wanted me to enter all 50 entries manually! Poke tongue | ;-P

What I don't understand is why this isn't automatically done during VS.Net's installation!?

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Paul Watson13-Sep-02 6:40

Re: Alert box and aspx.vb

13-Sep-02 6:40

LukeV wrote:
What I don't understand is why this isn't automatically done during VS.Net's installation!?

It should do, and in most cases does. However we have experienced IIS "loosing" all ASP.NET mappings without much of a reason (it did this after 2 months of perfect ASP.NET running.)

I still have not figured out why it did it.

LukeV wrote:
Sure Paul, you just wanted me to enter all 50 entries manually

Yes, yes, it is true. I wanted you to experience my pain... Poke tongue | ;-P

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Alert box and aspx.vb

sybux200012-Sep-02 8:26

sybux2000

12-Sep-02 8:26

Hi,

how can I display an alert box from the code behind when an event failed ; like an insert in a Database ?
Thx.

Paul Watson12-Sep-02 21:22

12-Sep-02 21:22

sybux2000 wrote:
how can I display an alert box from the code behind when an event failed ; like an insert in a Database ?

Not to be too critical but you really need to go back to learning the difference between server side and client side.

You cannot ask for a messagebox in your server side code because it is being run on a server far away from the client. So your client will never see it.

You need to use JavaScript/ECMAScript (or even VBScript if you are so inclined) to create an alert box that the client can see.

You will need a function on your client side page which checks for a certain state (probably best to pass it by the querystring which JavaScript can access) and displays a normal JavaScript alert box if the state is true.

Though I would ultimately adivse not using an alert box to notify people of that kind of error. Rather use some text on the actual HTML page.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Acces database on server

Rickard Andersson²⁰11-Sep-02 21:16

Re: Acces database on server

11-Sep-02 21:16

If I use an Access database on my page, can clients access that at the same time then?
I don't need an SQL Server or something similar?

Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing
C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN!
UIN: 50302279
E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu
Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

Paul Riley11-Sep-02 23:49

Paul Riley

11-Sep-02 23:49

Yeah, course they can. The only problem comes if the database is locked for an update and someone else tries to update but if your updates are nice and efficient, this shouldn't happen often (unless you're expecting heavy traffic which is a good reason to use SQL Server).

Paul

Re: Acces database on server

Jeremy Falcon12-Sep-02 3:09

Jeremy Falcon

12-Sep-02 3:09

Access sucks as a DB server. On the client it's nice because that's what it's intended for. I wouldn't use it for a DB server unless you don't expect more than like four people using the web page. If price is an issue go with MySQL or something instead of Access. You'll be grateful you did in the long run.

Jeremy Falcon
Imputek

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Re: Acces database on server

Rickard Andersson²⁰12-Sep-02 10:02

Create threaded message board

12-Sep-02 10:02

Thank you Paul and Jeremy!

I think I skip that in my project for now, I need more DB knowledge before I use MySQL or something like that I think! Big Grin | :-D

Rickard Andersson@Suza Computing
C# and C++ programmer from SWEDEN!
UIN: 50302279
E-Mail: nikado@pc.nu
Speciality: I love C#, ASP.NET and C++!

cool_guy11-Sep-02 21:13

cool_guy

11-Sep-02 21:13

I need to create a threaded message board for a website. Can someone provide more information on how I could do this ?

Re: Create threaded message board

Paul Watson11-Sep-02 23:47