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Where is Rational Clearcase? A good number of people still depend on it as their daily breadwinner right?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players.
They have their exits and their entrances;
And one man in his time plays many parts... --William Shakespeare
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Used it years ago but it was tooo slow... Then we coninuted using VSS and a year ago we switched to SVN and it is the best source control system imho 
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I have a hard drive crash with a VSS database that took me 3 days to recover from and we had to do a lot of re-coding. Over a 512/128 VPN it just took forever to sync our code files.
After doing a little research we found Vault and haven't look back since. God forbid it's fast and it has a godsend email monitoring service, so I can just get emails when other people update code. Backing up and restoring the SQL datastore has been faultless. We are kicking ourselves for not moving away from VSS earlier.
Jamie Clayton
Senior Application Developer
Jenasys Design Pty Ltd Australia
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Unfotunatley, sometimes you need to toe the corp line. This includes using whatever software is aleady being used. This doesn't mean I like it.
Also, I make sure that I use xcopy to make sure I have another copy sitting somewhere safe just in case 
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I use whatever my current employer uses. CVS? Sure. TFS? Why not? VSS? What the heck, why not?! Carrier pidgeons? Far out, baby!
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Well, there is that angle as well. One can hardly carry around their favorite SCC tool and force an employer to either adopt it or interface to it at the client level.
However, I do believe this is an interesting discussion in it's own right and regardless of whatever tool an employer forces one to use...
For example, don't even get me started on IBM and the Notes email client fiasco, what a POS that thing was (and for all I know, still is.)
But point is (and at least as of when I was at IBM) that's what one was given and it's what one used...
What used to crack me up about Notes is that it used to hang (crash, otherwise become unresponsive, etc) all too frequently.
And when it did, there were on the order of up to two dozen little file turds it left in the file system and it COULD NOT be restarted (at least in any usable state) until all those little file turds were either patched up or deleted.
It got to the point where, in order to support internal users and allow them to get work done, they internally distributed a little tool whose only function was to delete or otherwise deal with all those little file turds so that once Notes hung and one rebooted (if needed, which was also all too frequent) one could run the file turd tool and at least start and use their email client again!!!!
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 And we moan about Microsoft!
Kevin
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Hi,
we use AccuRev in our company and it's great (http://www.accurev.com[^]).
It has some goodies:
- Good concept: so called 'streams' define, which files and which versions of them should be in use. If you put a workspace at a particular stream, you get exactly these files/versions.
- Streams can be ordered in a hierarchical way and streams inherit files/versions from their parent stream. This makes 'staging' easy (alpha - beta - release candidate, etc.).
- Issue tracking is built-in: Group all changes of files you have made for a specific task into an 'issue'. The issue can then be handled as one configuration item, e.g. to be put into another stream. The abstraction to handle whole issues instead of single files is very effective. (though it's still transparent down to the files).
- No more tag or labels needed - make a snapshot in seconds. Need bugfixes of a snapshot version? Simply put a stream at the snapshot and continue working there.
- Linux symbolic links and Windows' junctions can be handled.
- GUI and CLI, equal for Windows and Linux.
- The repository backups are easy and can be done while the server is running.
- ..and many more.. 
best regards,
pink ink
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Now that I have my two Alpha systems running (OpenVMS 8.3) I can begin using CMS again. 
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Does this poll only include source control systems used in commercial crap?
Seriously, where is git, mercurial, bzr, CVS (hope nobody still uses *this*)...?
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Member 4134890 wrote: commercial crap
Steady on mate.
Member 4134890 wrote: Seriously, where is git, mercurial, bzr, CVS (hope nobody still uses *this*)...?
There is an "other" input box. Use it.
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Ouch... Well, maybe you should add the "other" category to the results. It could, quite possibly, make the answers add up to 100%...
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I used a licensed fork of Perforce at a very large SW company for several years and loved it.
It was lightweight and had a simple command line interface (there are of course gui tools as well), yet was amazingly flexible and powerful.
It simply and without a lot of overhead did what one typically wants from an SCC tool, yet did not present, impose, nor attempt to enforce some pre-conceived notion of development/build/test processes the way a lot of tools do.
One could create enlistments with notepad (edit or create two little files with trivial content and you're done), etc.
Unfortunately, Perforce's cost and licensing model is not terribly affordable or friendly to smaller SW development establishments/houses/companies, or I'd have bought it myself for my employer.
Given that VSS is bundled free and etc, that seems to be what a lot of programs and companies and projects end up with. And for good reason (cost-wise), given what I've seen of the price and licensing models of a lot of the commercial alternatives...
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I use MKS Source Integrity
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At work I do too. Can't say I'm very impressed. The features are (mostly) there, but hard to find...
At home I use zip with dates on the file. 8-)
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Hardened SVN server setup in progress, expect to switch at next project branch.
 SS has been too buggy for too long, especially when the SS guys at MS didn't really maintain it properly between the VS98 release and the "new" SS that came with VS2005. Especially a major regression in SS 6.0d (unrepairable SS generated minor inconsistency suddenly interfered with every
get or checkout from anywhere unrelated in the repository).
 Such non-support for a critical data storage tool made me not want to bet the farm on any new MS
source control tool. Imagine how data centers would respond to similar showstoppers in the equally business critical SQL Server or in the NTFS file system.
This message is hasty and is not to be taken as serious, professional or legally binding.
I work with low level C/C++ in user and kernel mode, but also dabble in other areas.
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I'm using VSS at the office (we use the VSS Internet plugin and we are about to migrate to TF) and SVN (Assembla's one) for my personal projects...
I prefer SVN... by far!!
I'm on a Fuzzy State: Between 0 an 1
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Unfortunately it seems like almost all my employers so far have opted use SourceSafe, probably because its in the Visual Studio box (I can't think of any other reason they may have gone that way). 
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I use Team Foundation now, and use SVN at home. But Vault was probably the best I've used. The install was easy, and having your code in sql server meant a backup was a simple db backup that was taken care of with all the rest
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Same situation, work uses TF and for my own project at home I've been using SVN, which I am staring to enjoy now that I'm getting used to how it works. But the first SCC I used after ditching SourceSafe was Vault. It's an excellent, cheap system and it's free for a single developer.
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I helped put VSS in place at work. About a year later (year ago) we switched over to subversion Just need to teach the newer folk that conflicts are not resolved by unanimously toasting the other devs changes
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.... but if I had to it would be CListCtrl.
"Listen, and listen well. I really like the band N-Sync. My favorite member is Harpo. I think there's a Harpo. If not there should be. I will write their next hit, maybe 'A boom-boom chiky chiky boom-boom a boom-boom chiky chaka chaka cho cho.' By the way, you must beware of Betty's iron claw. They are sharp, and they hurt. And beware his song about big butts, he beats people up while he plays it! " - Master Tang (from Kung Pow: Enter the Fist)
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I didn't for my first few years at my current job (been there over 11 years). However after getting a project that required me to write 250K lines of code over 4 to 5 years I quickly found it impossible to manage this much code without source control. The old .zip method every day was not working well. After trying cvs and wincvs, I wish I was using a long time before that. It was so much easier to revert back changes ... and then with the viewcvs/cvsweb it was also easy to view changes through the web. And I know I am forgetting multiple sandboxes (on the same development machine) and branching which are also very helpful...
John
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What about CListCtrl? I might use it as my source control.
"Listen, and listen well. I really like the band N-Sync. My favorite member is Harpo. I think there's a Harpo. If not there should be. I will write their next hit, maybe 'A boom-boom chiky chiky boom-boom a boom-boom chiky chaka chaka cho cho.' By the way, you must beware of Betty's iron claw. They are sharp, and they hurt. And beware his song about big butts, he beats people up while he plays it! " - Master Tang (from Kung Pow: Enter the Fist)
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I prefer Chris Maunder's CGridCtrl. Its much more functional and yes its in my cvs.
John
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