Bugs and Suggestions

Sean Ewington26-Mar-15 9:43

Sean Ewington

26-Mar-15 9:43

It's a super blurry line, Tom. The amount of people I've caught coming in with a facade of "I'm not associated with that company" posting on products that they were either paid to post on, or were just straight up evangelists for the company themselves, is so high, crackdowns must occur. It's simply been abused too much.

Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject

Tom Deketelaere26-Mar-15 9:49

26-Mar-15 9:49

I understand that, and honestly I wouldn't want to be in your shoes having to deal with this all the time.
My only concern is, that we don't get jaded (no idea if that is the right word but...) and throw out the good with the bad.

Anyway it was in no way a criticism against you or the team. Only a concern.
As I said before I appreciate the amount of work you guys do a lot.

And in the end it is your decision Smile | :)

Tom

Chris Maunder26-Mar-15 10:17

26-Mar-15 10:17

You might have noticed that I used the term "historically" Smile | :)

We now have a Third Party Products and Tools[^] section that allows members to post articles about 3rd party products. There are provisos, though.

cheers
Chris Maunder

Tom Deketelaere26-Mar-15 10:26

26-Mar-15 10:26

Did not know about that section. Learn something new every day Smile | :)

I guess that nullifies my entire concern Smile | :)

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I wouldn't want to be the final judge on those article's tho. I imagine I can be quite hard to figure out if those provisions are met, especially number 5.

Tom

Chris Maunder26-Mar-15 9:46

26-Mar-15 9:46

Tom Deketelaere wrote:
But if the articles really where about how to use the product and provide technical information about it, then why should this not be allowed?

Because we've had many, many (too many) cases were companies have been posting articles about their own products in order to push their own commercial offerings.

At the most basic, this goes against our submission guidelines. We have historically not accepted articles on technologies to which a typical developer in the space would not already have access. There's not much fun in reading an article that provides exactly the solution you're after...except you have to pay several hundred for a license. I started CodeProject because I simply couldn't afford licenses and so worked with the community to provide free (as in beer) and open solutions for all.

Secondly, if companies have no restrictions on posting endless series of articles pushing their products then why would they advertise? Instead of using our Developer Media services to talk to developers in a sensible manner, we'd have the homepage being a flood of commercially oriented articles. We'd be a ghost town.

cheers
Chris Maunder

Tom Deketelaere26-Mar-15 9:56

26-Mar-15 9:56

Chris Maunder wrote:
free (as in beer)

Where is this free beer you are talking about ?? Smile | :)

As I said in my reply to Sean, I meant absolutely no criticism and/or disrespect. Only a concern.
And I appreciate the difficult position you are in, and do agree with all your points.
I just wouldn't want myself to be reported for writing an article about how to correctly use Crystal Reports (I haven't because I simply don't know how to use it correctly so gave up on it a long time ago Smile | :)

, but it's an example)

I realize that in the end you must make rules to prevent abuse and apply them equally for all, and in the end your (and the CP teams) decision is final.

Just a offering of my opinion for whatever little it is worth Smile | :)

I'll go off in search of that free beer now Smile | :)

Tom

Chris Maunder26-Mar-15 10:20

26-Mar-15 10:20

We have beer in the fridge. Did I mention @[Kevin Priddle] brews his own?

We values everyone's opinion, Tom, and I really appreciate the comments.

cheers
Chris Maunder

Kevin Priddle26-Mar-15 10:26

Kevin Priddle

26-Mar-15 10:26

Kevin Priddle
Editor and Special Projects Manager - CodeProject

Tom Deketelaere26-Mar-15 10:33

26-Mar-15 10:33

Chris Maunder wrote:
We have beer in the fridge

Yeah, if that fridge wasn't at least 6.558km away and more than 12hours I'd be sitting next to it right now Smile | :)

Although that might explain why the hamsters are sometimes less than willing to comply Smile | :)

Chris Maunder wrote:
Did I mention @[Kevin Priddle] brews his own?

Tempting, o so tempting *checks flight information to Canada*

Well if he (or you, or anyone else of the CP team) is ever in the neighborhood of Belgium feel free to take you pick from this list[^] and I'll be more than happy to buy some for you Smile | :)

Tom

Chris Maunder26-Mar-15 10:57

26-Mar-15 10:57

I didn't realise you're in Belgium.

I would die of alcohol poisoning if I live there. Belgium beers nail it. Absolutely brilliant.

cheers
Chris Maunder

Tom Deketelaere26-Mar-15 11:05

26-Mar-15 11:05

Chris Maunder wrote:
I would die of alcohol poisoning if I live there.

I'm pretty sure that has actually happened here.

My home town has (or had, been a while since I'v been back there) a bar where you could get almost all of them. Tourists regularly try to drink them all in the short period they stay there, last I know off none have succeeded Smile | :)

Anyway the invitation is open and lasts indefinitely Smile | :)

Tom

Richard Deeming26-Mar-15 11:09

Richard Deeming

26-Mar-15 11:09

What's the name of the town (and the bar)?

"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer

Tom Deketelaere26-Mar-15 11:14

26-Mar-15 11:14

Brugges, yes the 'Venice of the north' and no I really don't see why it's nicknamed that Smile | :)

Bar name is 'De Kuppe' but seems they limited their options a bit to a 100 beers:
https://www.google.be/maps/@51.210194,3.223278,3a,58.4y,248.85h,76.31t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sbpsCra0czpDMJAhKCIJmtQ!2e0?hl=en[^]

Tom

Richard Deeming26-Mar-15 11:18

Richard Deeming

26-Mar-15 11:18

They've increased the list since 2006 - my out-of-date beer guide claims "over 80" beers on a "steadily more adventurous list".

However, it also claims it's a young person's bar, so that rules me out. Sigh | :sigh:

"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer

Tom Deketelaere26-Mar-15 11:23

26-Mar-15 11:23

Richard Deeming wrote:
"over 80" beers on a "steadily more adventurous list".

Yeah that was the official number, unofficially well... (regulations and such Poke tongue | ;-P

)
But the establishment has been cracking down on regulations and bars so that 100 will probably be all now Smile | :)

Richard Deeming wrote:
However, it also claims it's a young person's bar, so that rules me out

You are only as old as you think you are Smile | :)

Besides in the time I was considered one of those "young person's" I didn't go there and we considered it a "slightly older person's" bar so... Poke tongue | ;-P

Tom

Jörgen Andersson29-Mar-15 11:55

Jörgen Andersson

29-Mar-15 11:55

If you'd ever stray to western Sweden I'll take you to Ölrepubliken.
They have some 400 different beers, about 30 of them on tap.

Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

Richard Deeming30-Mar-15 1:54

Richard Deeming

30-Mar-15 1:54

Looks good. Beer | [beer]

"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer

Nish Nishant26-Mar-15 11:14

Nish Nishant

26-Mar-15 11:14

Chris Maunder wrote:
Did I mention @[Kevin Priddle] brews his own?

Considering he lives in Canada, what choice does he have? Poke tongue | ;-P

Regards,
Nish

Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

Nelek27-Mar-15 14:01

Nelek

27-Mar-15 14:01

Tom Deketelaere wrote:
I just wouldn't want myself to be reported for writing an article about how to correctly use Crystal Reports

You don't work for them and your nickname is not "Crystal reporter" Poke tongue | ;-P

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Mycroft Holmes25-Mar-15 19:58

Mycroft Holmes

25-Mar-15 19:58

Any idea what CodeSoso is, I was curious if any of my articles had been plagarised so I randomly picked a phrase and search google[^]. And got the codesos hits which all seem to link back to CP.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH

Jörgen Andersson25-Mar-15 20:48

Jörgen Andersson

25-Mar-15 20:48

It's a search engine for code.

Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

Slacker00726-Mar-15 11:00

Slacker007

26-Mar-15 11:00

Is this a real concern, or a shameless plug for us to see your article from 2009? Smile | :)

Mycroft Holmes26-Mar-15 12:42

Mycroft Holmes

26-Mar-15 12:42

Slacker007 wrote:
Is this a real concern, or a shameless plug

It is neither, I was curious and had no idea what the other site was. I'm astonished that the articles are still being downloaded on a regular basis and I only promote them in the forums when they are relevant to the question.

I really do not give a rats about the reputation so shameless plugs are a complete waste of time. Besides, the articles are ancient and I haven't used winforms since 2010, I don't have the depth in WPF to be writing insightful articles.

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH