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Hi Wong Shao Voon,
A version of your article is still live, but with the new submission wizard yes, updates need to be approved before publishing.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
The Code Project
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Here is why I would suggest to remove this check box from all Questions and Answer post forms:
After many months of reading of many posts and posting in this forum, I did not see a single case when this checking of this check box could be useful.
At the same time, nearly every day there are few misuses of this check box, when members check it and use some HTML formatting which is supposed to be rendered, not quoted, and the option screws up that formatting. I don't really know why those member misused of that option, but this is what I observe. Usually, experts help to fix this by unchecking this check box, most comment that it should not be checked.
As I don't see any use of this option in real practice, I would simply suggest to remove it. After all, not having this option does not prevent any reasonable formatting (in particular, using pre or code tags), and having it is not used properly anyway.
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I would support the opinion of Luc Pattyn who thinks (please see his comment below) that this feature should be removed from forums as well.
Thank you,
—SASergey A Kryukov
modified 5-Mar-12 12:29pm.
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not just in Q&A, I see no need for it in the forums either.
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I agree. Thank you for supporting my idea. I only mentioned Question & Answers because I never noticed the same feature software and because my observation were based on this forum only. But if this feature is available and useless elsewhere, it would be the best to remove it.
Thank you,
—SASergey A Kryukov
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I find it very useful when editing some HTML in a question or answer, in that it allows one to use copy & paste etc., without reformatting as one types. Removal of this option would not be a good thing, IMHO.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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Thank you, Richard.
That was just a suggestion. And for me it would be a good riddance because I uncheck it from other posts from time to time, never had to check.
—SASergey A Kryukov
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In fairness to SA's original request, pasting is meant to be handled by the pop-up paste dialog that does all the formatting for you (and even tries to guess the language).
I've seen members use this in forums (recently, too), but in QA not so much.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: meant to be handled by the pop-up paste dialog
But there are quite a few occasions when I don't want that to happen.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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Not sure what (specifically) you mean. You mean the pop-up dialog doesn't provide the options you want, or you don't want it to appear, ever?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Sorry for being vague. There are times when I would like to add some HTML to a question or answer, and while doing it I need to copy and paste some parts of it. If "treat my answer as HTML" is checked then the intelligent editor will replace my < and > with < and > thus preventing my work from appearing correctly formatted. If I check this setting and then do my editing, then when I uncheck the setting all my handcrafted HTML appears (I hope) correctly.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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Surely just copying the HTML:
<table border=1>
<tr><td>Like</td><td>this</td></tr>
<tr><td>and</td><td>this</td></tr>
</table>
and selecting "Paste as-is" to get
Is faster?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Not tried that, I'll do some experimenting tomorrow.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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Well, I just tried to improve this question[^], but it is ignoring the HTML and I can no longer correct it.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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Chris,
I see your point.
I knew about the possibility if such posts if first place, and I already explained what do I think about such cases: the code could come as is or with "pre" or "code" tags. I only report my observations; and you certainly have an idea that it's based on reading of many posts. The two cases you've shown me I see may be for the very first time or so; but the misused of this check box appear nearly every day, and experts often fix them. I'm talking about overall effect of having it, and worse case of not having it. Please see by yourself.
Thank you,
—SASergey A Kryukov
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In searching through messages I've seen it be used sensibly in forums, but not so much in QA.
OK, let's try and experiment then. I'll disable it today.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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if they want indented code, they should use PRE tags like everybody else, and get all the good things that come with it (non-prop font, vertical alignment, better readability, ...). By disabling HTML, they deny themselves the possibility to include hyperlinks, images, smileys, text effects, and more. Besides, you are offering the PRE blocks for free (which works OK since you moved the box to the right of the TextBox rather than over it). Most often you are in favor of a unified style, yet you actively support this deviation?
And finally, a document should not have states; states can be part of the entry tool (such as your WYSIWYG versus HTML for articles), not of the document itself.
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Luc Pattyn wrote: they should use
Ah Luc. If only our users all did what they "should" do.
Luc Pattyn wrote: a document should not have states
I disagree. If someone is more comfortable posting as Text, or as Markdown, or as HTML, then I should store what they entered, faithfully, so that when it comes time for them to edit, they are presented with what they entered, give or take any auto-corrections (such as closing HTML tags to create well-formed documents). Translating between these formats, both ways, is difficult.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Terrence should post the links with the little [^] so we can open them without leaving CP.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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The message is formatted automatically by our system, so I've made the change to the system to add the extra link.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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... of mcumcu[^].
Cheers, Jani Giannoudis
Meerazo.com - Resource Sharing Made Easy | Co-founder
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The code formatter in pending articles seems to have lost the ability to colorize (sic) the relevant reserved words in the different languages, even when authors appear to have made the correct selection in their source.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
modified 4-Mar-12 9:45am.
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Fixed the colourising issue - will deploy new code today.
I can't fix your spelling though. For that there is no hope.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: I can't fix your spelling though.
Sorry, I'm not very good at Canadian.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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