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Minor rant ... You post code as a solution, that only requires copying and pasting into a fresh project, then they say it does not work. Are they trying or doing what they think is better, not reading what you are writing... the code is not complicated.
Okay, rant over. Onto the next question.
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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Graeme_Grant wrote: that only requires copying and pasting into a fresh project,
that's the problem...
they just want to copy paste to their ongoing project  
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: they just want to copy paste to their ongoing project  
Only that they don't read the code you post and check what and where they put it.
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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Quote: the code is not complicated
Sir, codez ain't complicated. But.... It DOESN'T WORK!!!! 
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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CPallini wrote: Sir, codez ain't complicated. But.... It DOESN'T WORK!!!!
I'm starting to reply with Google Drive links to a sample project so that they can see it work, not their interpretation of what is given.
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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sent you a beer 
Charlie Gilley
βThey who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.β BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Graeme_Grant wrote: it does not work
And if you manage to push them to expand on that comment, it turns out they haven't read a single word of your answer, and are still running the original non-functional code from their question?
No, I'm sure I don't know what you mean. I've never had that experience in QA.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Similar experience here, gave a working solution in a console app, they needed it in WinForm. No points, just complaint that it doesn't work! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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Couldn't they create a console window in their WinForm app? I actually do not know the answer to that.
Iβve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
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kmoorevs wrote: a working solution in a console app, they needed it in WinForm
Spoon feeding / doing their work for them.
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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tricky
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I've used VNC to connect to a headless Mac Mini (previously i5, 8GB & now M1, 16GB) for many years.
I've tweaked it out in many ways to make it faster and the connection is directly from my Linux desktop over 1Gb ethernet directly to the Mac.
I am completely amazed and how slow it actually is. And there seems to be a bug where if you just type a character or two (say in a terminal window) then when the cursor stops it does not draw again.
It does this with the I-bar text cursor in XCode when I move it a few characters down to alter some text. After moving the I-bar it just doesn't redraw again. It's so annoying and I just didn't know that VNC would work so poorly -- well at least on the mac connection.
Anyways, I finally bought a KVM so I can just switch over to the mac.
I just don't really understand why the littlest thing like sending cursor position would be so slow.
I connect to remote desktops (windows 10 from my linux box) which are far away in distance across my router and out into the public internet and it works better so very confusing.
Glad I'm taking on the KVM.
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raddevus wrote: headless Mac Mini
Wow, where can I subscribe to behead Apple hardware ?
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VNC is a rather old protocol. If I remember correctly, it is an encapsulation of RFB (Remote Frame Buffer) protocol that just sends across squares of screen real estate that have changed. I doubt it has the concept of mouse position.
Also there are many VNC variants (real VNC, tiger VNC, tight VNC) so your mileage may vary. You might be better off with an RDP connection if there is such a thing for Macs.
Mircea
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Very good information. Thanks.
I thought it was related to the VNC protocol myself.
I have tried numerous times and various ways to use RDP to connect to the mac but could never get it to work. I also can't find anything online that shows that you can use RDP so I finally gave up.
Wow though! The KVM (obviously) is magical. Who'da thought that using your computer directly was so much faster than a remote connection?
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raddevus wrote: Who'da thought that using your computer directly was so much faster than a remote connection?
Darn those hardware guys and their speedy toys! 
Mircea
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I've tried doing that as well. Even with RDP and a couple Windows boxes. At the end of the day, even if everything works quick-ish, the latency for this type of stuff is too much for real productive work. Especially if you do just about anything with graphics or animation. Personally, I don't touch the stuff unless I have no other choice for things like simple server admin. Sanity is more important than having to tap a button to swap.
Jeremy Falcon
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Come to think about it, there is a solution if you want both "on" at the same time. You can get wide monitors that take two simultaneous inputs at the same time and show each display on either side of the screen. Then it's a matter of installing software to make it seamless on both machines. Since it's only tracking keyboard and mouse data the latency is tremendously better than VNC or RDP.
I am in no way recommending this particular monitor but just showing they be out there: Amazon Clickety.
Jeremy Falcon
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Hmm, I guess there was no monitor connected to the Mac.
I know when I remote connected to a Windows PC without a monitor it caused issues with the remote software.
If you need to go back to remote desktop software you could try a monitor emulator dongle (AKA HDMI dummy plug) to simulate a monitor in hardware.
Software-wise I use TeamViewer - it is free for personal use. It can work over a local network, although that is not the default.
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... And they are running 45 minds late.
Herself is not happy, but it's quite fun listening to one side of receptionist telephone conversation.
A long call, someone wanting an appointment ASAP...
"The earliest I've got in 7th March"
"I know, but that's the earliest we have"
"I'm sorry to hear you're in pain, but..."
"What kind of pain have you got?"
"TOOTHACHE YOU STUPID ****" -- we all heard that bit.
Receptionist disconnects.
Oops.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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modified 10-Jan-23 11:55am.
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OriginalGriff wrote: "What kind on pain have you got?"
My arse hurts, but I thought the dentist may be giving it a try.
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I thought it was a pretty stupid question when she asked it ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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On a serious note, it looks like getting appointments in UK is almost as bad as getting one in France.
My wife asked for an appointment for my son who had had stomach ache for a few days, and they proposed an appointment 3 weeks later. Needless to say, it was gone by then. Only alternative are emergency care, but there they complain that they have too many people coming for things that are no emergency AND you loose at least 6 hours of your life in the waiting room.
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Covid: few people had checkups in '20 and '21 and the workload now they are fully reopen has probably gone through the roof.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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