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I too started programming on a Commodore 64.
I did everything in Basic. Remember when you had to enumerate every line of code? (Shudder!)
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10 ? "Program starting..."<br />
20 ? "Hello World!"<br />
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hey that might actually help make code more consise and efficient.. then again someone would just automate the process..
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I suppose, but the part I disliked was trying to make your code changes/fixes in between. I use to think that offseting each line of code by 10 would be enough to fit any code changes in between, but when it doesn't, I found myself cursing as I incremented the numbers to all of the code below it. D'oh!
Well, until I discovered GOSUB later.
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And wasn't there a RENUMBER command, where you could specify the start line number and increment? That was some time ago, so I may have remembered wrongly!
I started on a Commodoe C16 (I can't remember the year, but I remember that The Queen (Elizabeth II) was 60 in the same year). I later moved to an Acorn Electron, Acorn Archimedes and finally a PC in about '95.
Sam W
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Oh those were the days:
10 PRINT "HELLO"
20 GOTO 10
RUN
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"This isn't right. This isn't even wrong."
-Wolfgang Pauli (1900 - 1958), on a paper submitted by a physicist colleague
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That brings back memories. I started programming on the C64 when I was seven. I remember the day I hooked it up to a "new" TV and discovered that it could do color it was mind-blowing.
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Did you had the "complete" ROM listings that DATA BECKER used to publish?
I still have the books plenty of annotations at the margins .
That was knowledge!
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I didn't have that stuff. My aunt and uncle subscribed to a C64 magazine and I would code all the programs they had in it and modify them to suit my own taste.
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"This isn't right. This isn't even wrong."
-Wolfgang Pauli (1900 - 1958), on a paper submitted by a physicist colleague
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I spent many hours on C64. My fisrt computer.
Had so many lines of code, it would take a few seconds for the prompt to show.
There was not a renumber command on C64, but there was a few programs to allow it.
I still have many of my Computes Gazzettes mags.
I have even converted some function to VB5/6/.NET
Anyone remember Jim Butterfield? Is he still arround?
Schneider
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This poll brings back memories of the first programming I ever did... learning GW-BASIC on a Packard Bell 8088.
I eventually "moved up" to Turbo Pascal. That was the bomb back in the day. But then I learned C in high school, then C++ in college, and so haven't touched Pascal in many, many years.
"I'd be up a piece if I hadn't swallowed my bishop." Mr. Ed, playing chess
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This was me back in 1993 a 13 year old junior high school kid seeing a working computer for the first time thinking he is learning the basics by running a program called GWBASIC.
It didn't make sense at first but a friend and I kept a book on BASIC from the library with us and we soon had a game done by following the examples in it. I was comfortable with programming before I even knew how to get out of word perfect.
After a while (15-17) with no PC I then learnt QBasic, COBOL, Turbo Pascal, C, C++, a bit of PROLOG, Visual Basic, Java (a bit), Visual C++, Delphi before settling with Visual Basic and InterDev.
Professionally I use VB.NET and C#. Haven't seen or heard about PROLOG since learning it and have never used it to do anything other than the excercises I had to do. I just want to see what COBOL.NET is like but otherwise I wouldn't lose any sleep if I never saw Pascal and COBOL again.
Let's make things simpler than possible.
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Does this include courses we've taken back in highschool?
Norman Fung
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I'd count it.
For me, though, high school courses helped me refine my programming. I had taught myself Pascal, but my code was horrendus. Didn't really grasp the concept of a function at first.
"I'd be up a piece if I hadn't swallowed my bishop." Mr. Ed, playing chess
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That instantaneously put me back to 15-20 age group - and I'd still be considered a late starter!
Well, I guess it's what you are accomplishing that matters ** trying to alleviate some pain **
Norman Fung
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I can't believe any one can start programming at 10 or 12. If he's not playing games , somethings wrong.
Hari Krishnan
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pranavamhari wrote:
can't believe any one can start programming at 10 or 12. If he's not playing games , somethings wrong.
I started at 9 - just simple stuff modifying programs in the ZX81 basic books I had with the hand-me-down ZX81 I was given. But then I liked maths and science subjects much more than sports, so it's not really that surprising.
I did play computer games as well though
Ian Darling
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Opposite is true! If you have possibility to try something interesting and/or challenging and you do not try it then there is something wrong with you! Computers are so simple yet it is true at age of 10.
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In the early 80's it was harder to avoid.
My first computer was an Atari 800, with a Pacman cartridge and a BASIC cartridge. You can only play so much Pacman.
After that I got a ZX Spectrum, which I programmed by typing in listings from magazines, and making modifications, eventualy working my way up to writing my own stuff. Super-Pro Lemming simulator was a memorable low point
Ryan
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I was too old to start before I was 10, but I started programming as soon as I could get my hands on a computer, an old ZX-81 followed by a BBC Micro. Ah the joys of Z80A and 6502 Assemby language.
Generally I found, that the people whose main interest for getting a computer was to play games never became programmers. Unless the challenge of writing a program was always much more challenging that that of finishing a game, you'll never have enough motivation to be a programmer.
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Well, I may have started programming at 8, but I did not do anything professional until my second year of college (I worked for both of my colleges...)
Peace!
-=- James (Sonork:100.21837)
[Tip for SUV winter driving survival: "Professional Driver on Closed Course" does not mean "your Dumb Ass on a Public Road"!] [Get Delete FXP Files Now!]
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I started programming on a Sinclair ZX81 when I was 10, mainly because I only had one game for it and so I had to make my own entertainment. Moving from there to a ZX Spectrum, where I continued programming because I couldn't afford the games.
Michael
But you know when the truth is told,
That you can get what you want or you can just get old,
Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through.
When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel
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It's a long time ago, but I still have the "Mainboard" of my old ZX81.
I also had the memory expansion (16KB - that rocks!).
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Games are actually how I first got interested in computers. I remember being in an arcade when I was younger, and watching (um, bothering!) a technician that was repairing a game (I think it was "Warrior").
He told me that a video game was nothing but a computer with buttons instead of a keyboard!
After hearing that, I was hooked!
-=- James.
-=- James (Sonork:100.21837)
[Tip for SUV winter driving survival: "Professional Driver on Closed Course" does not mean "your Dumb Ass on a Public Road"!] [Get Delete FXP Files Now!]
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Keep in mind how easy some visual tools are nowadays. When people my age (I'm 39) were 10 there were no personal computers. Now they have tools such that at the very least allow you to create very simple apps without any programming logic or experience needed.
Cheers,
Tom Archer
Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.
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* Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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