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No. But I will if the need arises.
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I do work on projects outside of work. The problem with this is I start new projects with big intentions all the time, but starting them is about all I do, LOL!! Then I get busy with life and stop working on it. Then start something new, hahaha. I wonder if there are others out there like me, that never complete personal projects outside of work?
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Yeah just like me 
But some months later I finish the job, because I always have little projects on mind..
Maybe we can do together a project, just add my skype and we talk about it!
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sounds good man, lets talk my skypeid is macdonald05
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I already add you on skype!
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Happens with me too 
Always Keep Smiling.
Yours Pankaj Nikam
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I used to--a lot. But not anymore...at all.
At one point, I was working on some of my pet projects from the minute I finished work that day until I had to go to bed, and all day Saturdays and Sundays. 3-day weekends were especially productive, as well as holidays (yeah, I'm single--so there).
But, I think I've pretty much burnt myself out. For a while, work (what I got paid to do, I mean) got less and less interesting, and along with it, I felt less and less motivated to work on my own stuff. At this point, I haven't spent any significant amount of time coding on my stuff in about 2 years. I still have plenty of ideas, but the motivation to invest my free time on those tasks just isn't there anymore.
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I often like to do code outside of my usual work. Bcz code means life to me, a friend of idle time and inspiration of my everyday life. Coding is Poetry, isn't it? 
Shuvro
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What the hell is wrong with me?
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While going home after work,
i think that apart from what we do in our daily work life ,have to do new things and learn new things .
So every day ill start on new things but the very next day ill get another new stuff ,so i drop the old one ..
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As a construction worker I only code for fun.
David
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For me, I'm a little bit of both Yes and No. Although I no longer work professionally as a software engineer, I'm still writing code for personal projects or other areas where I can leverage my experience to automate tasks or make things easier.
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Who does not dreams with their own software/software company/Consultancy.
This is plus your work hours, no matter your work load; have to work harder if you want to.
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Since I'm a contractor, there's no such thing as non-work hours.
If I code at home for a client it becomes work-hours.
Once upon a time, in real life, I used to only code for fun.
As noted in my bio, now I do for money what I used to do for pleasure (are we all really whores?).
Even if we are - so what. I get paid to have a good time. Can't beat that (perhaps gigolo is more apt?)
A toast to all of us who still love to code and get paid.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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I see my self as a mercenary. I do that my boss says to do, no matter how owful or hard the task is, (I am delivering late anywhere)
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You should always deliver late - you don't want to raise their expectations.
Keep them in a state of 'glad to even get something resembling what they wanted'. Grateful users are usually afraid to complain.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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And it works?
No more Mister Nice Guy... >: |
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Try it. What could go wrong? Think of all the merchants and craftsman who successful run their business that way (car repairs come to mind).
Just tell them "This is software we're talking about. Something you'll rely upon. This ain't no "30 Minutes or It's Free" pizza delivery.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Try it.
Maybe I would if I could, but I do not work for myself, so I do not have relations with customer on that matter (sadly I communicate with customer on projects state etc.). But my employer (which is pretty good guy) is always nervous when he cannot deliver product on time, so I just got curious if this possible...
Or maybe this is possible in US only
No more Mister Nice Guy... >: |
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n.podbielski wrote: Or maybe this is possible in US only
Actually, training people to gladly accept mediocrity crosses all national borders with ease.
The concept of disposable (rather than repairable) goods has become accepted (horrid quality control for Chinese made goods, for example). Consider, if you will, what you expect from a newly delivered hard disk drive . . . vs. what you used to expect . . . in terms of quality, reliability, longevity, and that it will not arrive broken.
As I understand, in many countries the concept of a facilitator is quite acceptable. A person who must be given a fee so that you can do something (such as seen by a gov't official). In the US, this would be quite illegal (influence peddling). In reality, of course, although everyone here is equal, some are indeed more equal than others ($$$).
So, if literally billions of people can be trained to pay a bribe, acceptable as normal, your task in training customers to know that you'll laugh at the word delivery date and deadline shouldn't be that hard. And best of all - imagine how grateful they'll be when you actually do deliver on-time!
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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It is quite funny what you say (in a good way). And what about customer that are not happy about your delivery timing? Do they want to extend contracts? Give you a new ones? What leverage do you have to be better than other contractors?
No more Mister Nice Guy... >: |
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n.podbielski wrote: What leverage do you have to be better than other contractors?
Software works well from the start and runs for years without problems.
Also - I'm the guy who can use the most languages and solve problems faster than pretty much anyone else.
But the real jewel in the crown, if you will, is that my 'contract' is essentially full time - so I'm a rather economical resource (read that "cheap labor").
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Also - I'm the guy who can use the most languages and solve problems faster than pretty much anyone else.
So you are not as lazy as you wanted to be (or as sounded from first replies). Good. I thought that there is better way to do our work than I know of.
Anyway thanks for the tips.
W∴ Balboos wrote: (read that "cheap labor").
Judging how you write, you are anything but cheap.
No more Mister Nice Guy... >: |
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