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31-Aug-14 4:22

I am confused by terminology, again.
I got the wireless dongle installed, I got the network connected ( Dlink) but cannot get pass the "network key".
I tried "automatic assignment" and it did not work, I changed the network key manually - XP took it but still complains about it.
I am assuming it is not same as "user password" I set in Dlink.
I am obviously doing something very basic and stupid.
I followed few "how to set network key " but so far no go.
Would appreciate any help.
Cheers Vaclav

PS I need to get this setup on hardwired system so I can connect my sick PC using wireless connection, my NIC is busted on that PC.

Richard MacCutchan31-Aug-14 4:59

Richard MacCutchan

31-Aug-14 4:59

You need to use the network key that is generated by your router. I have no idea what a Dlink looks like, but I suspect the password you set is just for access. Somewhere in the configuration wizard will be a section on Wireless Settings, where you choose WEP,WPA etc., and set the wireless access keys.

Vaclav_31-Aug-14 7:47

31-Aug-14 7:47

Yes, at that is the key I set and XP took it. But it still asks for it and does not like it.

Richard MacCutchan31-Aug-14 20:38

Richard MacCutchan

31-Aug-14 20:38

There must be some mismatch or problem in the router. I have worked with a number of different routers and never come across such an issue.

Vaclav_2-Sep-14 8:18

2-Sep-14 8:18

The router has been set-up for Mac and works just fine.
That is why I am hesitant to reset to default.
I am tempted to temporary remove any security so I can get the other PC updated via internet,
That's is all I am after.
Maybe I should go to Wally's and buy me NIC with driver!

Richard MacCutchan2-Sep-14 20:55

Richard MacCutchan

2-Sep-14 20:55

Vaclav_Sal wrote:
The router has been set-up for Mac and works just fine.

Which has nothing whatsoever to do with your question or problem.

Vaclav_Sal wrote:
Maybe I should go to Wally's and buy me NIC with driver!

Or just hit it with a hammer.

Eddy Vluggen31-Aug-14 5:18

31-Aug-14 5:18

If your router looks like my old one, then there is a sticker on it somewhere stating what the key is. If that key does not work, then someone changed it - resetting the router to its defaults would fix that.

--edit
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Vaclav_31-Aug-14 7:50

31-Aug-14 7:50

If I reset the router to defaults, will it reset the admin password too?
I think I can get a file of current options so I should be able to recover anyway.

Eddy Vluggen31-Aug-14 11:58

31-Aug-14 11:58

I cannot guarantee; but it does reset my router to the factory-defaults, and *all* passwords (including admin). It's from the "Experia" line, but I reckon most routers behave like this.

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How do I copy new video driver into working system?

Albert Holguin5-Sep-14 8:15

Albert Holguin

5-Sep-14 8:15

Vaclav_Sal wrote:
If I reset the router to defaults, will it reset the admin password too?

Yes, I've done this in the past when routers have gone crazy on me (looking at you Linksys Suspicious | :suss:

Vaclav_26-Aug-14 7:15

Re: How do I copy new video driver into working system?

26-Aug-14 7:15

I like to update my video driver and have downloaded new dll.
When I try to paste it into \system32 I get two funky messages from XP.
The first one is busy calculating if I have enough disk space while the other cannot do the "paste" since someone is using the driver, duh!
I do not have .ini installation file.

Is using command and DOS copy my reasonable option?

Thanks
Cheers Vaclav

Eddy Vluggen26-Aug-14 8:26

Re: How do I copy new video driver into working system?

26-Aug-14 8:26

Vaclav_Sal wrote:
Is using command and DOS copy my reasonable option?

Nope. You could overwrite the dll if you boot in safe mode, but there's a big chance that the system will stop working from that point forward.

A dll is a library, and it usually has dependencies on other libraries. The rest of the installation-package of the driver would not know about the updates in the new library, and try to call it the "old" way.

You'll need a complete driver.

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Vaclav_26-Aug-14 11:14

New clean XP install missing network hardware?

26-Aug-14 11:14

Actually I am having second thoughts about updating the video driver.
I have on app which crashes my XP and the WndDbg indicates problem with video driver.
But - only one app has this problem, so logically it points to the app not liking this particular driver.
So I would not want to kill my whole PC for this stupid app problem.
Cheers
Vaclav

Vaclav_25-Aug-14 6:29

25-Aug-14 6:29

<pre lang="text"> Up font, I can reload it if necessary, but I HAVE to ask this stupid question.
I did clean install of XP from my original CD, but I did not have the internet connected.
And I really did not pay much attention to the process.
But it started and worked OK.

Now I have spare PC, currently not reassembled ( no keyboard or monitor) and no access to internet.
The $64 question:
Do I have broken network interface ( the PC was a"gift") or should I have internet plugged in during the install?
Or should I put it back together and let Device Manager find the network interface
with the live network plugged in?

PS I told you it was a stupid question, did't I?

Cheers Vaclav

</pre>

Eddy Vluggen25-Aug-14 7:40

25-Aug-14 7:40

Vaclav_Sal wrote:
or should I have internet plugged in during the install?

Nope, not required.

You might want to delete the driver, and then have Windows "search" for new hardware. When unsure about which driver to use, try something NE2000 compatible.

Deleting the driver can be done by opening the system properties, select "advanced", go to hardware tab, open device manager, find network-card, delete.

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Vaclav_26-Aug-14 7:37

26-Aug-14 7:37

Thanks for reply.
The "problem " is the NIC driver was never installed and I am not sure about the motherboard hardware.
I tryed two drivers per manufacturer spec but neither one of them would start the NIC.
As soon as I figure out how to access / change / add password to my internet wireless "modem / router " I'll try to connect the new PC to the internet that way.
Since I have never used the wireless part it is another search for me, but I got the USB dongle connection working!
Cheers
Vaclav

Eddy Vluggen26-Aug-14 8:32

26-Aug-14 8:32

Vaclav_Sal wrote:
The "problem " is the NIC driver was never installed and I am not sure about the
motherboard hardware.

If there's no network adapter mentioned in the device manager, then it's not installed.

If it's plug and play hardware, your best bet is to hook it up to a system with an active internet connection. Add it to the system, not the manufacturer and model once it gets installed, then search Google for an offline installer.

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Vaclav_26-Aug-14 11:07

Browsing a Network Via VPN Connection

26-Aug-14 11:07

I found one, do not recall the name /type , but it would not start.
I guess I could go back and remove the two I have added and note the one which is in there.
I really suspect it is broken.
But I need to learn how to work with the wireless adapter, so I ma taking that route for now.
Cheers Vaclav

Roger Wright21-Aug-14 19:26

Roger Wright

21-Aug-14 19:26

I posted this in the now-uninhabited RootAdmin site, but I don't really expect a response and hope for better here. To wit:

At work we have a local network with 15 or so PCs and a couple of network printers connected to a 24 port switch, thence connected to the outside world via a SonicWall firewall. Since the SonicWall includes several VPN licenses, and I often travel, I thought it would be a snap to construct a protected tunnel from my Win7 laptop to the SonicWall, effectively connecting me to the edge of the network and enabling me to browse and use any of the local network resources.

I had our IT guy set it up for me for my last trip out of town, and I fired it up from my hotel room. All I could see in Windows Explorer was a single Shared folder - nothing else was visible. I checked with the IT guru today and he told me that I could connect to anything I want to, so long as I know the IP address or network name, but that it's impossible to set up the VPN to support browsing and a Network Neighborhood-style view on the remote computer.

I don't think I believe that, but since I haven't worked on PCs and networks for a living in about 10 years, I haven't kept up with what MS has been doing to make life less convenient lately. Can someone familiar with using and configuring VPN connections confirm or deny that what I want to do is possible? Better yet, can someone tell me how to set it up? If it matters, we have servers on the network, but we aren't configured as a domain and don't use Active Directory.

Thanks, as always!

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Peter_in_278021-Aug-14 19:38

Peter_in_2780

21-Aug-14 19:38

Hi Roger,
One thing I have done in similar circumstances is to VPN into a "client" PC on the LAN, and effectively inherit its view of the local network. It's a while ago now, so I'm a bit hazy on the details. Effectively running remote desktop off an "inside" PC.

hth
Cheers,
Peter

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Jörgen Andersson21-Aug-14 22:39

Jörgen Andersson

21-Aug-14 22:39

Try adding the IPs of your servers in the hosts (and LMHosts) file.

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Bernhard Hiller21-Aug-14 23:30

Bernhard Hiller

21-Aug-14 23:30

Hm, not sure about that browsing experience, as I normally don't use it.
I can access network shares in a different office (which are mapped to some drive letters) by clicking on them in the Windows Explorer - and only then will their state change from offline to online, and when accessing internal websites, the addresses are already stored in the bookmarks of the web browser.
Here in a branch office, network browsing in Windows Explorer only shows computers of this office, it does not show computers at other offices, though I can access them as described above.
[Edit]Now working from my hoem office, I see only one computer when browsing the network: mine. So everything looks OK.[/Edit]

modified 25-Aug-14 3:46am.

Michael Martin25-Oct-14 23:00

Michael Martin

25-Oct-14 23:00

Roger Wright wrote:
Since the SonicWall includes several VPN licenses, and I often travel, I thought it would be a snap to construct a protected tunnel from my Win7 laptop to the SonicWall, effectively connecting me to the edge of the network and enabling me to browse and use any of the local network resources.

Roger,

I have a couple of clients running SonicWALLs. Are you connecting in via the Global VPN Client? That is how I connect in from the outside world and when doing so always RDP to a computer on the remote network to do my work from.

One of the clients has several offices and they are connected voa Site to Site VPN. On those networks I can access anything as if it was on the local network.

Michael Martin
Australia

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