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Hi,
I have an application which was developed in C# .NET , however this application uses some 3rd party controls which are available on the web for free,. during my setup process how should i pull those libraries at run time and install them on the user's desktop.
Any ideas would be great or any sample would be even nice.
I have build simple .MSI file using visual studio setup.
thanks in advance
Samar Aarkotti
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Any dependant Dlls shoudl be automatically pickup up when you create the MSI install project by VS.NET. They will be included in the deployment package and written to the program directory by default.
Basically as long as you have a refernce to the controls in your project, the MSI should take care of it.
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I know those things , but how do i get all the dll's at the runtime, so that MSI will pick those dlls from internet.
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You would probably need to write an application that runs during the MSI installer or b4 your application runs for the first time to download them.
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Hi for all
I'm studying Threads, Mutex and so on. About Mutex, I've readed that Mutex is to synchronize threads and processes. When a thread releases the Mutex, another thread can obtain it and do something. But when I was seeing some source codes the reality isn't this. I'll explain. When a Thread creates the Mutex and set itself like the ownership, the current thread is the creator and the owner. When the Mutex is released to some waiting thread, these waiting thread only just receive a signal and then do something, and it doesn't have exclusive access to the resource  . A sample:
class Myclass
{
Mutex newMutex = new Mutex(true);
public static void Main()
{
Thread newThread = new Thread(new ThreadStart(AccessMutex));
Thread newThread2 = new Thread(new ThreadStart(OtherAccessMutex));
newThread.Start();
newThread2.Start();
Thread.Sleep(2000);
newMutex.ReleaseMutex();
}
public void AccessMutex()
{
newMutex.WaitOne();
Console.WriteLine("Done");
}
public void OtherAccessMutex()
{
newMutex.WaitOne();
Console.WriteLine("Done");
}
}
Other doubt: If two threads have call the WaitOne method of Mutex's object, who will access the resource first? 
Thanks a lot for help, threads are a great challenge.
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You need to add a call to newMutext.ReleaseMutex() at the end of both AccessMutex and OtherAccessMutex, otherwise one of the threads will be suspended indefinitely.
For your other question, usually the threads are released in a first in first out queue, but that doesn't mean they always will. In general it is an error to assume there is a specific release order for any resource unless it explicitly states it.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book,
only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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I tested this sample and the two threads works fine Andy. Both of them are executed normally. But my question is, if in a main thread the Mutex is created and owned, how can I obtain exclusive access to Mutex for another thread and not just to execute the others when the main thread release it?
Thanks a lot for your help, can you help me another time? Please..
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I think this might make things clearer.
Your code works because C# is smart enough to release the mutex when the thread ends allowing the other thread to continue, but this is a really bad habit to get into since it can lead to deadlocks. Every call to WaitOne should be paired with a call to ReleaseMutex, and this includes the mutex creation because in some processes the mutex static constructor could be called on a separeate thread from main.
ReWrite your sample methods so they look like this, then try it with the Release line commented out and in place.
static void Main(string[] args)
{
sMutex = new System.Threading.Mutex(true);
thread1 = new Thread(new ThreadStart(t1));
thread2 = new Thread(new ThreadStart(t2));
thread1.Start();
thread2.Start();
sMutex.ReleaseMutex();
thread1.Join();
thread2.Join();
}
private static System.Threading.Thread thread1;
private static System.Threading.Thread thread2;
private static System.Threading.Mutex sMutex;
static void t1()
{
for(int i=0; i<10; ++i)
{
sMutex.WaitOne();
Console.WriteLine("done1");
Thread.Sleep(0);
}
}
static void t2()
{
for(int i=0; i<10; ++i)
{
sMutex.WaitOne();
Console.WriteLine("done2");
Thread.Sleep(0);
}
}
One way you will get alternating done1 and done2 lines and the other you will get 10 donex followed by 10 doney, where y or x are 1 or 2.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book,
only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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Right, but there are some question remaining:
- The WaitOne method blocks the calling thread(in this case t1 and t2). After the ReleaseMutex method of Main(), the two threads executes the loop one time, cause (in my mind) this 2 threads will be blocked by WaitOne method and cause no one is signaling for the two threads. I've executed you code and you're right, it works like you said(the two ways). What I don't understanding is the WaitOne Method and the ReleaseMutex in the two threads, if the Mutex was created in Main(), how the threads obtain the exclusive access to the Mutex, and why the ReleaseMutex is called in the two threads?
- If my explanation of WaitOne method is incorrect, tell me more about it.
Thanks again and thanks for the patience
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Imagine the mutex as a counter.
When you call WaitOne and the counter is zero then it is incremented.
If the counter is one then WaitOne enters a loop until the counter is decreased to zero and then it is incremented to 1 and the function returns.
Whenever WaitOne returns the counter is in a one state.
ReleaseMutex decrements the counter to 0.
If no threads are in WaitOne then nothing happens, but if there is a thread executing waitOne it bumps the counter back to 1 and then continues on.
That is the simplest conceptual model of a mutex. In windows terminology that is a single count semaphore which is sometimes called a mutex in other operating systems.
In windows and .net the mutex keeps track of which thread owns it. Imagine this as a counter plus a field for the threadID of the owning thread. That's how your sample worked. When each thread went out of scope all mutexes with that flag set to the threadID were released, which allowed other threads executing WaitOne to return. A thread owns the mutex when it exits from WaitOne because the mutex structure is locked and the threadID of the owner is recorded. Also through the magic of the thread scheduler, threads executing WaitOne are suspended and one is selected to wake up when releaseMutex is called rather then looping indefinitely.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book,
only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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Ahhh, now I understand. When we call WaitOne() the thread wait for the Mutex and when the Mutex is released, the thread acquires access about it. After the current thread use the Mutex, it is released to the other thread acquires the access to Mutex and use it.
Thanks, that was exactly what I wasn't understand, the WaitOne acquires the access to Mutex when it is released.
Thanks Andy for the support.
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Ahhh, now I understand . When we call WaitOne() the thread wait for the Mutex and when the Mutex is released, the thread acquires access about it. After the current thread use the Mutex, it is released to the other thread acquires the access to Mutex and use it.
Thanks, that was exactly what I wasn't understand, the WaitOne acquires the access to Mutex when it is released.
Thanks Andy for the support.
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Hi,
Can you help me about show a MDI child without flickering?
The Mdi child form have no border and no control box, but when i execute
then form.show appear then border briefly and then disapear.
Is it a bug?
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I need to create a list view con 3 column.
The first one will contain images 32x32 the second one the real size of them 500x125 or 423x90... the last one just the name.
Ok how can i create a list view like this?
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First you need to add three columns to the ListView's Columns collection, either with the designer or by code:
ColumnHeader ch = new ColumnHeader();
ch.Text = "";
ch.Width = 35;
listView1.Columns.Add(ch);
ch = new ColumnHeader();
ch.Text = "Size";
ch.Width = 80;
listView1.Columns.Add(ch);
You then need to create an ImageList and add all the 16x16 images that could be displayed (while in detail view 16x16 pixel images are displayed), and then set the image list to the ListView control:
ImageList il = new ImageList();
il.Images.Add(bm1);
il.Images.Add(bm2);
listVie1.SmallImageList = il; Finally you add the items:
ListViewItem item = new ListViewItem("");
item.ImageIndex = 0;
item.SubItems.Add(String.Format("{0}x{1}", widht, height);
item.SubItems.Add(fullPath);
listView1.Items.Add(item);
I hope this helps. Any questions feel free to ask again.
-- LuisR
Luis Alonso Ramos
Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico
Not much here: My CP Blog!
The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005
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yes but i detail display mode (with coulmn) it is not displayed images, but just when iconList or Largicon.
Then i need to set bigger images then 16x16, can i?
Then can i set different image size in preview so to have 16x16 for 1 item, 32x30 the second, 30x25 the third...
tnx for your help.
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In detail view you can also display images (see detail view in Windows Explorer for an example.) You just have to set the ImageIndex property of the ListViewItem and a SmallImageList to the ListView.
But you can't set different image size for each item. Since you specify images in an ImageList, they are all required to have the same size.
-- LuisR
Luis Alonso Ramos
Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico
Not much here: My CP Blog!
The amount of sleep the average person needs is five more minutes. -- Vikram A Punathambekar, Aug. 11, 2005
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I'm working on an application in C#, which has the capabilities of displaying and processing images. (one at a time, the images are rather large but I finally decided on resizing them to moderate sizes (e.g. 600*600)) 
There's not much image processing involved but zoom, mirroring, rotation and brightness change should be possible.
The most important fact is performance. The image should be displayed very fast and the image processing steps sould be very fast too.
I'm trying to brainstorm some new ideas of doing the displaying and image processing because I tried so many things but I'm not satisfied with the results. I tried it with GDI+ (with and without brushes) and with Managed DirectX (Direct3D and also DirectDraw).
Anyone here has good ideas of doing it? Am I on the right path or did I miss a possibility? 
Right now I tend to do it with GDI+ because DirectX does not really work faster and is more complicated to use. 
thank you very much.
-- modified at 10:22 Tuesday 30th August, 2005
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Hello
What performance would you like to get ? I am using GDI+ and C# for image processing tasks in research areas and it's almost satisfy me. Yes, it's impossible to get such performance to use it in video processing, bit for most image processing tasks GDI+ is almost good enough.
There is one great think, that troubles me much and it's leading to performance decrease. As we know the fastest way of image processing is using LockBits and processing data in unsafe block. But, on each LockBits call GDI+ coping the image memory block. And it is sux.
So, if you want to implement very fast image processing tools, which can be applied to video processing too, I think you should think about C/C++. As an example look at Intel's library [^].
With best regards,
Andrew
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Hello Andrew,
thank you for your reply. I already use the Lockbits-method and it gave a good performance boost once I implemented it weeks ago. But the performance is still not good enough.
I decided to just use C# and no C, but maybe thats the only possibilty to make it faster now.
One big problem is that a brightness change should work in realtime, the user should see the change immediately. I tried it with indexed bitmaps and a Change of the Palette of this bitmap, which works wonderful but is still a litle slow.
For that reason I wanted to decrease the size of the bitmap before changing the brightness. For that reason I used the Bitmap-Constructor which requires a Bitmap and the Width and Height of the new Bitmap as paramters:
public Bitmap ( System.Drawing.Image original , System.Int32 width , System.Int32 height)<br />
But the bitmap this constructor delivers doe not have a Palette. 
So I cannot change the Brightness by changing the palette.
Anyone has experience with that?
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Hello...
The point of the question is : how portable should be your app...
To use Managed DirectX u need to install it...
Ok... But Managed DirectX is one possible way to optimize your performance...
Another way is to use Platform Invoke from the native Window GDI API...
f.e.: the native StretchBlt Function to doing zooming operation...
Best regards...
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I like to run Java components from C# does anybody know how to do this?
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