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Well, I think they are trying to disincentivize storing documents locally, which is what I do.
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Amarnath S wrote: Perhaps their (business) idea is to utilise Drive space for (nearly) duplicate files, so that the need arises for buying extra Drive space.
It's called versioning.
It certainly has its uses, but the choice to enable it or not should be up to the user. And make that choice obvious, not hide it 7 menus deep into your Settings.
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Versioning, from what I know, uses deltas to store differences, so that the overall storage space is reduced.
However, here, are they are duplicating files, even with small deltas, so that space gets occupied, that the free space quota gets filled up, and the (lay) user needs to purchase space?
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Amarnath S wrote: Versioning, from what I know, uses deltas to store differences, so that the overall storage space is reduced.
That's in an ideal world, but reality is that you can make copies and slap a "versioning" label on it.
And, as soon as you have binary files, you can bet they're just duplicating files and not trying to come up with deltas.
So for a general-purpose storage solution, they probably do the same and don't make any special case out of file types that would be easy to create deltas for.
And why should they? The more space used, the more space they can sell the customer, as you said.
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Was that a copy of the original bottle, or did you want to overwrite that one?
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You know the one:
GUI interface using visual basic to track the killers IP address CSI - YouTube
I still recall my first reaction, which went something along this order:
a) You're gonna do what now?
b) If whatever you have in mind was actually useful, why would you need to write it now, shouldn't it already exist?
c) That sounds very specific, why would you announce to everybody listening you're gonna use VB for that?
d) The more I think about the whole thing, the more questions get raised
...and finally,
e) When writers don't know the first thing about a particular subject, they just shouldn't go there. Someone will pick up on it, and if it's dumb enough, it'll reach legend status. Or might that have been the original intent all along? 
Don't ask why I suddenly started thinking about this. Must be a late-Friday afternoon thing.
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I like Gary Sinise. I used to watch that show back in the day. I think I saw that episode. I seem to remember my utter disbelief of that scene, but I could be wrong. There are so many CSI scenes that could have triggered that feeling.
Can you even imagine the primordial scream if a manager told a sys admin, "I want you to write a GUI in VB to track an IP?" 
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dandy72 wrote: b) If whatever you have in mind was actually useful, why would you need to write it now, shouldn't it already exist?
Hmm, well, about twenty years ago, while I was writing software for a local taxi company, I saw one of our cabs doing something unwise -- I didn't see its number. It occurred to me that I had access to the data (GPS) required to find out which cab it was, based on location in time and space.
So when I got to the office, that's what I did. No GUI though, if I recall correctly I produced a text file of GPS points for cabs which were in the area at the time which I then loaded into whatever mapping software we were using.
As far as I recall, the supervisors had a real-time map of where the cabs were, but no way to see history, or a cab's track.
Anyway, some time later I was asked if I could do that for another situation -- I think it was thought that one of our drivers may have been in a position to witness some event and the police asked if we could identify the driver who was seen in the area.
I said, sure, I already have a utility for doing that.  Given a GPS point, a time, and how wide to search, I could identify which cabs were there at that time, and produce tracks on a map.
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If you could run all of your apps & games on Linux…
Would you switch to a Linux desktop?
Why? Or Why not?
I’ll go first.
Yes. I would switch. I already switched back in 2019 & I’ve been happy.
I couldn’t even run everything I wanted to run (a couple of games and Atmel Studio (embedded IDE which is a variant of VStudio, only runs on windows)
Why?
Updates are amazing on Linux (rarely do they cause any down time — no sitting & staring at update screen like Windows)
I like development on Linux. I like hobbyist “family” of Linux where it is “us against them”. 
I also do Android programming and Android Studio runs better on Linux.
Linux typically uses a lot less RAM than Windows which is nice.
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What's primarily keeping me back is my own lack of familiarity.
I've messed around with a lot of Linux distros, and even though it happens rarely, there have been occasions where I've somehow managed to completely make a mess of things, and the simplest solution has always been to repave. I can't afford that luxury.
I'm much more familiar with Windows, so when I do screw something up, it's extremely rare (aka "never") I can't recover without doing something so drastic.
It's a catch-22. Because I won't dive in head-first, Linux is relegated to run in VMs and until that changes, the rest of my systems keep chugging away on Windows. Which is a crying shame 'cuz over the years, I've come to realize that Linux runs damned well. At times it sure feels like Microsoft these days is trying very hard to push me in that direction, as most of their "improvements" over what already exists sure don't feel like such.
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dandy72 wrote: What's primarily keeping me back is my own lack of familiarity.
Preach brother. The only reason I know it is because I had a buddy into it 20 years ago and have been following BSD and Linux since. We used to geek out about it.
You can see if there's a Linux User Group (LUG) in your area. I used to go to those as a kid. Peeps were great. I can guarantee you if you wanna learn it, someone there will show you the ropes.
dandy72 wrote: I've messed around with a lot of Linux distros, and even though it happens rarely, there have been occasions where I've somehow managed to completely make a mess of things, and the simplest solution has always been to repave. I can't afford that luxury.
There are beginner friendly distros.
These two are closer to what you're used to with Windows:
Kubuntu
Linux Mint
Kubuntu will use Wayland (newer display crap). Linux Mint still doesn't. But both are beginner friendly.
There's also Ubuntu. It's a great, beginner friendly distro too. Its desktop experience is nothing like Windows though. It's more like Windows 8 meets iPhone. It's pretty nifty, but IMO it's worth installing an extension to give you a normal taskbar with it.
Anywho, start with a beginner friendly distro man. Unless you enjoy pain. 
dandy72 wrote: It's a catch-22. Because I won't dive in head-first, Linux is relegated to run in VMs and until that changes,
Yeah, immersion is the best way to really learn something. Having it tucked away in a VM makes it easy to not use it.
IMO, if there's an interest, find some peeps at a user group. The right friends really do make all the difference.
Jeremy Falcon
modified 9-Aug-24 19:12pm.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Yeah, immersion is the best way to really learn something. Having it tucked away in a VM makes it easy to not use it.
That is a very good point. I had “tried” Linux a number of times before & it never stuck.
Then I became really annoyed with windows in 2019 & entirely erased it from my machine and installed Ubuntu (user friendly distro as you said) and jumping in and forcing myself to figure out every problem I encountered got me there.
However, I also understand that is an extreme viewpoint & not everyone wants to go all-in.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: There are beginner friendly distros.
I have an uncanny ability to mess up even the beginner-friendly ones, including (especially?) Ubuntu and a few of its derivatives, like Mint. If it's not a video or network driver, it's the file system, or grub, or...
I currently have 862GB worth of ISOs (going back a decade or more) spread across 34 different folders (a different distro per folder), so I don't really need an introduction around which as best at what. It's more of a matter of making a commitment to using one daily, and finding out how to get things back up and running when (say) an update gets botched (it happens) and the system no longer boots...
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Oh btw, Linux isn't without its problems... especially with some drivers. Anyone saying otherwise is just lying. But, crap runs faster on it I'm convinced. And well, nobody's forcing peeps to give them all their data. So, ya know... there's that.
Jeremy Falcon
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Yeah I have an NVidia GPU & I have had issues.
I had one bad problem I didn’t understand & i ended up doing a complete re-install of Ubuntu (which I later discovered was not necessary).
I have hit the pain points using Linux but I had a backup windows laptop if I got into trouble and that kept me going. The switch will not be without pain.
I also had all of my data backed up so I didnn’t lose anything on re-install.
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I've been running NVIDIA on Linux Mint for about 8 years give or take. People way NVIDIA is a problem, but other than one instance where an upgraded package left me without X-Windows (which was fixed by removing the package manually and installing it again), I've never had an issue.
Other than that issue, and some hardware problems where the machine locked up when running GPU intensive workloads (because the heatsink and fan fell of the video card) Linux has been rock solid and never skipped a beat.
Complaints:
I was not able to get the Samsung mobile phone backup software to work under Linux a few years back - so I had to use Windows for that once when I changed phones.
Discord wants a package re-install about once per week. You start it up, it tells links you to an updated .deb file, and you download and install it either by double clicking on it from the Gui, or manually according to your preference. That might be because Firefox is my default browser and it doesn't run remote code. Chrome is available and also works.
Otherwise, everything pretty much works. Not only do I not miss Windows at all - I feel sad when I have to use it for work . . .
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: But, crap runs faster on it I'm convinced.
I sitll remember some years ago in burning a CD with Nero in Windows XP around 15 to 20 minutes and that's going fast.
Linux burned the same CD in less than 2.5 minutes
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek wrote: I sitll remember some years ago in burning a CD with Nero in Windows XP around 15 to 20 minutes and that's going fast.
Linux burned the same CD in less than 2.5 minutes
Well. To be fair, let's compare apples with apples; burning a CD isn't exactly a task that will overwhelm an OS, even during the XP days. Undoubtedly there's a burn rate selection that was not chosen. Or the burner itself, hooked up to XP, didn't support the higher speed - I remember the introduction of faster drives was a very gradual thing.
OTOH, I've burned CDs at (say) 52x. No buffer underrun, no problem reported whatsoever, only for me to realize weeks/months later the disc was rather unreliable. I stick with burning at 4x, no matter what the OS. And better yet, these days I burn as few discs as I can...
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