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Re: Is ChatGPT worth the effort for a developer?

Vikram A Punathambekar19-Jul-23 19:37

Vikram A Punathambekar

19-Jul-23 19:37

Arthur Humphrey wrote:
Unfortunately the language of AI is not as clearly defined as, say, C B L

Why, why, why would you use that language as an analogy?

Cheers,
Vikram.

Re: Is ChatGPT worth the effort for a developer?

Arthur Humphrey20-Jul-23 9:14

Arthur Humphrey

20-Jul-23 9:14

To give a vague indication of my age and to show how far I need to go. For a long time my learning curve was like this / but I dropped out for a couple of years. Now my learning curve is like |.

When did they add this to Visual studio?

OriginalGriff15-Jul-23 23:00

OriginalGriff

15-Jul-23 23:00

I've only just discovered "Peek definition"^* - it opens a "floating window" into the code where that object is actually defined. Wow, but that's handy - I've been using "Go to Definition" for years and it's a pain because it opens in another window if it's in a different file (or you can use Window Split if it's in the same file).

How long has that been there? Probably years ... OMG | :OMG:

* Right click any class, variable, field, property, or method and select "Peek Definition" or use ALT+F12

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Re: When did they add this to Visual studio?

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter15-Jul-23 23:39

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

15-Jul-23 23:39

VS 2019

"If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization." ― Gerald Weinberg

Re: When did they add this to Visual studio?

Andre Oosthuizen15-Jul-23 23:55

Andre Oosthuizen

15-Jul-23 23:55

Yup, 2019. There do seem to be a small issue though in vs2022 where -

Quote:
the ‘Peek Definition’ function (or pressing Alt-F12) on some code opens the peek window, but doesn’t scroll to the target code, but shows the top of the file.

as seen at - BUG in VS2022 on Visual Basic code when click on Peek Definition doesn't show the element, shows the file where is declared at the first line.[^]. It does not seem to have a solution yet though.

Re: When did they add this to Visual studio?

DerekT-P16-Jul-23 23:10

DerekT-P

16-Jul-23 23:10

It makes you wonder just how "robust" the code is, when a feature that's worked fine for at least 7 years gets broken in a new version even when it's not being changed. D'Oh! | :doh:

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Re: When did they add this to Visual studio?

RickZeeland16-Jul-23 1:18

RickZeeland

16-Jul-23 1:18

I know about the Peek definition option, but still prefer to use "Go to Definition" and after that the Navigate backward button on the toolbar.
Old habits die hard I guess ...

Re: When did they add this to Visual studio?

jochance17-Jul-23 5:37

jochance

17-Jul-23 5:37

If you have a mouse with a back button (usually the one around your thumb), same as going back in a browser, it works to go back in VS.

Re: When did they add this to Visual studio?

Slacker00716-Jul-23 2:16

Slacker007

16-Jul-23 2:16

Microsoft is slowly over time, integrating all the most useful features of Resharper, into Visual Studio, with the hope of one day making Resharper obsolete, thus making VS even better and more useful.

"Peek Definition" was being written about in 2014, not entirely sure when it started exactly, but approx. 10 years, give or take.
Visual Studio Tip: Peek Definition | Microsoft Learn[^]

Re: When did they add this to Visual studio?

Ron Anders16-Jul-23 3:31

Ron Anders

16-Jul-23 3:31

I have in it in vs2017 but not vs2015

Re: When did they add this to Visual studio?

DerekT-P16-Jul-23 12:04

DerekT-P

16-Jul-23 12:04

It's in my copy of VS 2015 Community Edition ... which is what I'm still using, and use Peek Definition a lot...

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Re: When did they add this to Visual studio?

Ron Anders16-Jul-23 12:49

Ron Anders

16-Jul-23 12:49

Oh my gosh you're right! Mine too sorry everyone and Microsoft too, musta been vs2008 - yeah that's it. Big Grin | :-D

Re: When did they add this to Visual studio?

obermd16-Jul-23 14:13

obermd

16-Jul-23 14:13

It was in VS 2017.

Oh, deep joy. If ChatGPT wasn't bad enough ...

OriginalGriff15-Jul-23 20:13

OriginalGriff

15-Jul-23 20:13

WormGPT Is a ChatGPT Alternative With 'No Ethical Boundaries or Limitations'[^]
ChatGPT designed to produce malware?
That'd be really frightening if I hadn't seen the quality of ChatGPT's code ... Laugh | :laugh:

Re: Oh, deep joy. If ChatGPT wasn't bad enough ...

Andre Oosthuizen16-Jul-23 0:25

Andre Oosthuizen

16-Jul-23 0:25

LOL, totally agree!

Seems ChatGPT is a point of discussion today, I just posted a sample usage as well from one of our Q&A's.

For the dev that created the WormGPT, ouch, imagine what people can do with this! IF the returned code is worth the while...

Wordle 757

OriginalGriff15-Jul-23 19:41

OriginalGriff

15-Jul-23 19:41

Wordle 757 5/6*

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Re: Wordle 757 - 4 4 me

pkfox15-Jul-23 22:11

pkfox

15-Jul-23 22:11

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Re: Wordle 757

Cp-Coder16-Jul-23 2:39

Cp-Coder

16-Jul-23 2:39