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honey the codewitch wrote: I'd call that winning, even for all of the crap she went through.
Real question: Should not be "despite" instead of "even" in that sentence? Or am I understanding you wrong?
M.D.V. 
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"despite X" is probably the more common way of saying it "even for all of X" works too.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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Thanks... I didn't know that way of saying it.
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I wouldn't necessarily recommend it, but it works if you pick it apart. 
I'm making a mental note of it to not use it here now, because we have a lot of people who speak English as a second language here, and I try to be mindful of that, but my writing style doesn't really lend itself to being easily accessible to everyone. 
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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If someone reads you and doesn't understand you, but doesn't ask as I did... it is not your problem.
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I understand what you're saying. I'm descriptivist though, and at the end of the day part of that means I feel it's my job to convey what I mean to my audience, and if they didn't understand it, then *I* can do better.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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for technical content... yes, I agree with you.
For lounge chat... no need to stress
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honey the codewitch wrote: I'd call that winning
I agree.
I am reading that she renounced her U.S. citizenship and finished her last years in Switzerland with her 2nd husband. Interesting. 
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In her own words:
Quote: In an interview with Marie Claire South Africa in 2018, Turner said: "People think my life has been tough, but I think it's been a wonderful journey. The older you get, the more you realise it's not what happened, it's how you deal with it."
Mircea
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Totally agree with that.
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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Really wise words 
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Sad news.
Rest in Peace Tina Turner.
Your songs will keep you here with us for a long while.
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What a great talent and yes she will be missed. ![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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Lost another treasure of my youth... Make it stop!
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Very much missed, indeed! I will never forget her performance as The Acid Queen in "Tommy: A Rock Opera." May she be, at long last, at peace.
Will Rogers never met me.
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The ones getting "left out" are the ones who's questions even ChatGPT can't figure out (e.g. Q&A)
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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And switched as many M and N keys as I could.
Some might say I'm a monster, but others will say nomster.
I'll get my coat and leave early too.
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Could have gotten really evil with it, and swapped out keycaps from other keyboards to give people a whole row of the same key. 
There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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Next time hit the Escape key when you're done and no one will ever know!
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If you really wanted to be evil, you could use PowerToys Keyboard Manager[^] to remap the keys without changing the physical keyboard. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Reminds me of a (sort of) mystery short story I read long ago, in the days of the mechanical typewriter, about a long-lasting conflict between one guy and this blind author. After the author has won one battle, the other guy takes revenge by sneaking into the author's house and a tool kit for switching the hammers of the author's typewriter around, so that the text written would become completely garbled. (That was the conclusion and main highlight of the story.)
It is difficult to believe that a writer of short stories (in those days) never had seen a mechanical typewriter. I was a boy when I read the story and I laughed out loud. Every hammer has its unique angle between the head and the arm; the arm length also varies. You couldn't even switch two neighboring arms without the arms crossing, getting stuck. The story is completely impossible, the main point is outright silly!
Some fiction authors make me upset when they in their writing include stuff of which they don't have a clue (but I do!). And then, some fiction authors do extremely thorough background studies to ensure that their story is logical and consistent with realities. Often, I do internet searches to check, learning e.g. that that specific Leica lens was indeed released more than 50 years ago, exactly the year that the main character was eagerly ordering it, learning a lot more about lenses along the way 
I wrote to this author (Lars Mytting, "The sixteen trees of the Somme" - btw, I recommend the book to anyone loving wood!), asking him about the WW1 nerve gas that he writes about - I wasn't aware of any of that sort until WW2. He returned a quite lengthy reply, telling about what he had dug up of information about early chemical experiments, suggesting that the very first such nerve gas might have been used in WW1, although in very limited amount and probably not at all. In his novel, he took the freedom to use it in this one battle. It could have been the case (although there is no preserved evidence of it).
I was really impressed by the thoroughness of his background studies, and he expressed being pleased with readers attacking his books with that level of scrutiny
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Reminds me of a similar story/brain-teaser where someone was murdered.
They managed to type a message with their last breath, but they placed their fingers on the wrong home keys.
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Mo problen om ny conputer.
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