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Steve Naidamast wrote: how management treats us professionals and the way most companies now treat their customers.
Hmmm....
IBM was considered the gold standard. If you worked for them then anyone else would hire you.
For IBM
1. You had to wear a suit. There was no such thing as business casual at that company. And was not for a long time.
2. They used what is basically an apprentice system for programmers.
3. Any programmer hired started at the first level by typing the code created by others into card decks. I believe you did that for about 2 years before you could move up.
4. IBM was sued and lost due to the way they treated their contractors. That lawsuit established much of what is considered standard for how contractors are treated now. Not just in programming but across all industries.
For companies buying computers IBM was consider the gold standard also. Anything else except IBM was considered not as good regardless of how it worked. The IBM PC was considered a throw away by the company itself. IBM invested in it solely because they considered it a toy but their customers were demanding that as an option. That by itself was both the biggest blunder by the company (because they did not take it seriously) and probably realistically allowed the computer revolution that exists now or at least it would have slowed it down. The blunder was in not restricting the license to MS-DOS.
Steve Naidamast wrote: Combine this with all the criminality that is now ever present
Crime has nothing to do with what you are stating. It always exists and always will. Prime example of a scam that lack of computers allowed (and lack of communication networks) was depicted in the movie "Catch Me If You Can"
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Books! I've still got the first microcomputer/programming book I bought in 1978 (when I built my first computer). It's "the Z-80 microcomputer handbook" by William Barden Jr. It's where I learned the z80 architecture and how to program the computer I'd built. Had no real OS, just a simple monitor program called Zapple. It allowed dumping memory, peeking and poking memory, execute at a specified address and setting a breakpoint. There was no assembler so I was programming via the opcodes. Fun times.
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Well, in those days (when the Dead Sea was on the Critical List) "Google" was running to the library and hopefully they had the books that answered your question. You would ask the Librarian or if you knew how to read the Dewey Decimal System and the card index, you could find the answers yourself.
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IBM operating system source code on microfiche. The holy grail (at the time).
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Ditch Front Page and just use the browser debugger with a workspace.
Edit the DOM and hot replace JavaScript.
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Sounds like a good article to write.
You might be the only person to reference it 5 years hence, but it will be there…waiting for you!
This is why I often post my own solutions on sites, so I can find them later.
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Books and Writing Code without the Internet WOW this tag line brought back a fond memory I would like to share!
I was at a medical conference with my Palm Pilot and this fellow ask me how I liked it.
Told him it was GREAT and that I was trying to learn to write code for it. His reply sent me in a tail spin.
Not only was he a Practicing Physician he said he had written a book for NS Basic would you like a copy
Holly Bat Wings YES YES so after I calmed down I ask him how much ? No it is a gift.
I then explained I worked at the Grand Canyon with a physician that wrote a book
"Death and Dying in the Grand Canyon" He got excited and ask where to buy a copy.
NO NO I will have a copy sent to you
Yes I miss the Book Culture
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Used ChatGPD to write the anti collision code?
The March 23 collision was due to a software error in a Cruise automated vehicle (AV) that inaccurately predicted the movement of an articulated San Francisco Municipal Transit Authority bus,
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
modified 11-Apr-23 10:50am.
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theoldfool wrote: ChatGPD
I see your problem. We used ChatPID 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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So, you flew in ever decreasing concentric circles? That explains it.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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Oh, dear, the "RAMMING SPEED!!!" mode was meant for L.A.
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There was a similar collision many years ago, maybe with Tesla? What year?
If you see such a thing in a roundabout, switch to manual mode immediately.
The next test case should be a truck pulling two small trailers.
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And the cry it's Alive!...
Okay bit dramatic but the first piece of a test rig I was told by those in the know wouldn't work, works!! I feel happy, oh so happy. Not in the least as it gives me the excuse to say 'If it's so complicated, why does this work are you sure you are doing it right?' in the same conceding tone I was told my method would work...(Happy, Happy, Joy Joy!!!!) 
Glenn
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Did you mean "condescending" and "wouldn't"?
glennPattonWork3 wrote: in the same condescending tone I was told my method wouldn't work...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Typing too fast...  But it works!
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Discharge an unknown particle (9)
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
modified 11-Apr-23 4:43am.
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Discharge
an unknown SECRET
particle ION
SECRETION
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
modified 11-Apr-23 4:44am.
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I got struck trying to find ways of making EXCRETION work and by the time the obvious then hit me, you'd got it!
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I was trying to find particles ending in X or Y for soooo long ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Today is the 11th of April 
Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
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Fixed
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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What does OT mean ?
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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It's short for "off topic"
Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
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